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Mazda3i vs Elantra GLS

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Re: 06 mazda3i or 08 Elantra GLS? - Pick a side and help this young guy out :-) [theessenceofla] by backy
Aug 10, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: theessenceofla (Aug 10, 2008 11:34 am)

I think it's an easy choice. The Mazda3 would be a lot more fun to drive, and since both have ABS (and side curtains on the 3, right?) there isn't any big advantage to safety on either one. They are comparable in fuel economy. The main difference is that with the Elantra you get a smoother, quieter ride and more backseat and trunk room, but you get better handling and a sportier appearance with the 3. Given you are 22 and probably won't be carting adults long distance in the back very often, and I would guess prefer the sharper handling vs. smoother ride tradeoff, plus the 3 costs a lot less up front, what is there to decide?
 
One suggestion: you might invest in an extended warranty (through Mazda) on the 3, so that it's under warranty while you own it. That is especially if the car has an automatic. It would still cost a lot less than the Elantra, with its long warranty.
 
P.S. Another option you might consider is getting a 2006 Elantra GT, which has sharper handling than the regular Elantra and IMO is a fun yet practical vehicle (with its hatchback), plus it has features like leather and alloys standard and can be had with ABS, traction control, and moonroof. And would probably cost more like around $10k, and still have 3 years of bumper-to-bumper warranty left. Just a thought. I own a 2004 GT and it's been a very good car for me.
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by theessenceofla
Aug 10, 2008 (4:07 pm)
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hmm wow
 
I like both of your confidence!!! Is it really that simple? I have driven mazda and I like it but haven't driven elantra. Maybe I should
 
Backy,
I'll look into Elantra GT. Thanks.
 
Now how do I know if the car has ABS and side airbags? Is there any way to check with VIN or model or something? or do i have to trust the seller?
 
The car I am looking at has power door/locks/cruise control/steering volume etc.
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Re: [theessenceofla] by backy
Aug 10, 2008 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: theessenceofla (Aug 10, 2008 4:07 pm)

You mean the Mazda3, right? There will be labels in the headliner (look up near the top of the A pillar for example) noting the curtain airbags, also a label on the outside edges of the front seatbacks for the side airbags. As for ABS, there will be an ABS lamp that comes on when you turn the key to the "On" position (just before you turn it to Start). Anyway, I think on the 3 that ABS and the side airbags come in a package; I don't know if you can get one without the other. These features are standard on the 2007+ Elantra. If you consider a pre-2007 Elantra, be sure to check for ABS because it was optional before 2007. If the car has the Traction Control button to the left of the gauges, it has ABS.
 
P.S. I should have mentioned, if you do look at a 2006 Elantra, the GLS hatchback has most of the goodies of the GT including the sport-tuned suspension and steering, and a nice sport cloth interior, but doesn't have alloys or leather. Those might be hard to find used though.
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by theessenceofla
Aug 11, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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Oh I see why it's cheap
 
It's privately owned now but it was a rental car for 4 months and it has about 4000 miles from rental car. Since then, another owner has used it.
 
I am going to get it checked by mechanic but this requires thinking
 
20000 miles (2 owners- I will be 3rd)
$12000+tax
No accidents or anything else on autocheck though
 
still a good deal?
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by theessenceofla
Sep 04, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Just to Update,
 
I got the car and I ended up getting mazda 3i. More fun to drive and less out of pocket expenses and loan payments now.
 
I checked CARFAX and AutoCheck
I had the car checked out by a Mechanic
I called the dealer to see if any work was done (bulb change) and if it was still under warranty (yes!! till 50,000 or 2010)
 
Everything checked out and I drove home with it
 
Summary:-
 
Age: 22
19,600 miles 2006 mazda 3i touring
4.6% CU loan with Auto Debit payments
No Gap & No extended warranty
$12000 +$350 (Sales Tax and title and plate transfer)
 
Having a car to drive!! Priceless!!!
 
Thank you all for your help and input. I am happy and that's the most important thing!!
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09 Mazda3 s T or 08 Elantra SE? by ogurek
Dec 16, 2008 (11:17 am)
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hello all,
im in a similar position like the original poster and i figured it wasnt worth a new thread.
the 09 Mazda3 s Touring HB and 08 Elantra SE sedan are my top picks
 
the mazda has the advantage of handling/power, more cargo room, better exterior styling, solid reputation and made in japan, 5 speed AT
 
the hyundai has the advantage of more MPGs, better warranty, lower price tag, more safety oriented
 
the prices are (according to edmunds) w/AT:
mazda $20,075 msrp, $18,799 invoice
hyundai $17,670 msrp, $16,949 invoice
 
still trying to find a good quote on the mazda, but i found an 08 at 16.5k(+destination) in one place
ive gotten three quotes in the range 14.6-15.3k for the hyundai
 
im looking for a commuter car, so mpg and safety are a plus
im paying cash and want to keep the car for a while, so depreciation is not a big deal but reliability is important
im looking to buy in the next few weeks and take advantage of the slow economy
i would appreciate any and all opinions
 
thans for reading
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Re: 09 Mazda3 s T or 08 Elantra SE? [ogurek] by ahightower
Dec 17, 2008 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: ogurek (Dec 16, 2008 11:17 am)

Well, I'll offer the first totally biased opinion in the Mazda forum. I much prefer the Mazda3 to the Elantra. The difference in fuel economy between these two, 2-3 mpg, is not going to impact your monthly budget all that much, even if it goes back to $4 per gallon. And if fuel economy is really important, as it was for me, get a 3i instead of 3s. I find the 2.0 to be plenty powerful, and it's said to be more reliable than the 2.3 as well. Regarding price, the 3i Touring Value have all the features you'd need (power windows, locks, alloy wheels) for a good price (of course, the 3i is sedan only, but you are comparing to Elantra sedan. If hatchback versatility is really important, it's a no brainer as there really is not a good competitor for the 3s HB below $20K). 2010's are coming out soon, but that's largely a cosmetic makeover unless you really want the new 2.5 engine and navigation system. If there are any remaining 2008 3i's on the lot, Mazda will probably cut a really good deal. I and many others got near invoice pricing.
 
You say depreciation is not a big deal, but you never know how your needs may change, I'd feel better getting something that will hold its value better. As for reliability, the Mazda3 is well regarded. I hear good things about Hyundai all the time too.
 
Now, the intangible - let's be honest, isn't the 3 just a whole lot cooler? It might cost a bit more than the comparably equipped Hyundai, but overall I find the Mazda3 to be the best looking and most enjoyable small car to drive and that's gotta be worth something. You know, zoom zoom, and all that.
 
The other small cars that got my strongest consideration before I bought my Mazda3 were the Mitsu Lancer (great value for the money, good looks, and now with a more powerful 2.4 instead of the old 2.0), Subaru Impreza (good interior room, fun to drive, very safe resulting in cheap insurance, but too expensive when optioned out, and mediocre gas mileage), and Honda Civic (I liked everything about the Civic, but they don't wheel and deal on those things, so I saved about $2000 going with Mazda3 comparably equipped. Plus I'm not crazy about the looks of the Civic, especially in 4-door).
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Re: 09 Mazda3 s T or 08 Elantra SE? [ahightower] by backy
Dec 17, 2008 (9:08 pm)
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Replying to: ahightower (Dec 17, 2008 7:46 pm)

Good points about why the Mazda3 shines over the Elantra SE. I agree it should really be a comparison of the 3i vs. the SE, since both are sedans and the power and price are more comparable.
 
So why would anyone go with the Elantra? Here's a few points that IMO are in the Elantra's favor, beyond those already mentioned:
 
* Standard ESC on the SE; not available on the 3i (but available on the hatch).
* Roomier rear seat on the Elantra, if you frequently carry more than a couple of kids back there.
* Smoother, quieter ride on the Elantra, if you travel over rough roads a lot.
* Standard XM radio on the Elantra--might be extra cost if available on the 3i.
 
I like both cars, and looked closely at both before buying a used car recently. But when looking at the used market, I found that the Mazda6 was no more dollars and usually less than the 3, and much more car for the money. Similarly, the Sonata is a much nicer car than the Elantra and costs no more as a slightly used car. So if you don't have to have a new car and you don't mind a larger can than the Mazda3 and Elantra, maybe look at a 2007-8 Mazda6i or Sonata GLS too.
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Re: 09 Mazda3 s T or 08 Elantra SE? [ahightower] by ogurek
Dec 17, 2008 (10:15 pm)
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Replying to: ahightower (Dec 17, 2008 7:46 pm)

thanks for the prompt reply.
i know that comparing a hatchback to sedan is not really fair, but id much rather get a mazda hatchback than sedan. more room for shopping, luggage or other stuff.
 
i agree that the MPG difference is not huge, and probably the Mazda i models are better matched. but the hatchback is only available with 2.3 so thats that.
im not really concerned about the 2010s, since i like the appearance less, and i wouldnt buy a first-year model of anything.
 
as for depreciation, i think they hyundai will be affected more, since korean cars still have a poor reputation of quality or reliability. so the mazda wins there even though the initial cost is more.
 
i agree the mazda IS cooler. the exterior has much better styling. the hyundai is rather inoffensive but i dont dig those cutesy headlights and high hips. all the reviews have praised mazda handling, while hyundai was called buick-like.
 
i ruled out the subaru because of mediocre reviews. the only edge it really has is the awd. i also ruled out the civic because of the near-MSRP selling price. and i agree about the looks, although the 2009 face-lift is more appealing. the mazda and hyundai both offer more value than either of those cars.
 
all this considered, i am leaning more towards the mazda. i guess im just trying to justify the higher price tag
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Re: 09 Mazda3 s T or 08 Elantra SE? [backy] by ogurek
Dec 17, 2008 (10:50 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Dec 17, 2008 9:08 pm)

thanks for the reply.
 
the models i compared both had standard: Braking Assist, Anti-Lock Brakes w/EBD, Traction Control, Stability Control, head and side airbags (according to edmunds)
so i guess they are matched on safety features.
 
as for room, i estimate most of the time ill be driving by myself, so room in the rear seat is not a big deal. but that is a pro for elantra. it is important that that the front seat is roomy since i am on the tall side.
 
yes, im pretty sure the elantra will offer a softer ride. i live in NJ and there are plenty of potholes. that is a plus in the elantra column. i did read a lot of complaints in this forum about alignment problems, so that has me worried though.
 
i dont care about satellite radio. i listed to cds and now plan to listen to mp3s, since both cars can play them. both also have auxiliary input jacks.
 
some other pros for elantra: i like the heated mirrors, actual car alarm and not just engine immobilizer, trip computer, remote trunk release, overhead console...
 
i do remember reading that the 6 can be bought for less or similar to the 3. i dont know why though. i guess the 3 has a 'cooler' image. i would prefer a small compact car. i think its easier for parking (smaller size and turning circle) and has more agility. im thinking new car cause i like the peace of mind.
 
mazda 6 is not offered as a hatch and the sonata was redesigned for 09, so both have strikes in my book. i realize that in terms of getting more 'car' the midsize cars offer a better value. but if you think about it the small cars are not really that much smaller that the midsize. the wheel base of a sonata is only 3 inches more than an elantra.

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