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#8985 of 11747 Re: GLK250 First Look [steve_]
Apr 29, 2013 (8:19 am)
You could have driven a corolla since 99 and saved big it's true -- but you had a nice sized minivan. Even a 2013 minivan won't double your mpg. You could do it with the Prius V but you of course would be downsizing a lot. Depends on your needs in transportation.
#8986 of 11747 Re: GLK250 First Look [jayrider]
Apr 29, 2013 (8:43 am)
I think pretty soon the Prius V will be used in the discussion to tow 1.5 mile freight trains, INXS of 1 M #'s LOL. After all, it's a hybrid.
More in line is the VW T TDI 4974#'s with my posted 32 mpg vs 1994/1996 TLC 4800#'s getting 15 mpg. or 113% better FE. (6 cylinder BOTH)
There are a few folks that continue to go on record saying that IT ( 32 mpg vs 15 mpg, 113% BETTER) is IN significant. RUG is after all, cheaper than diesel corner store prices today are:
#8987 of 11747 Re: GLK250 First Look [jayrider]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Apr 29, 2013 (8:30 am)
We're in downsize mode here; even getting ready to sell my last canoe.
Of course, we've been telling ourselves that for over a decade now and junk keeps accumulating.
The next gas saving scheme will be to put new tires on the van (well, that's wrong too, since bald tires usually get better mpg).
#8988 of 11747 Re: What would it take for me to buy a diesel? [scurvydog42]
Apr 29, 2013 (8:38 am)
"At 5000 miles the oil presure sending unit was moved/extended to accomodate the installation of a high efficiency oil by pass filter."
I like the idea of having the extra qt of oil capacity, but what was your reason for the bypass filter? Is this an additional filter aft of the original? If so then I understand the thinking. When I read bypass, is when I'm not sure..Perhaps this filter is meant to filter any oil that the original chooses to bypass. If so then that makes perfect sense and combined with the extra oil capacity can only help to extend overall engine longevity. IMO, the engine oil lubing is likely not as much at risk with OEM stock design as the fuel system. There is a far greater chance of buying contaminated fuel, and with today's super high pump PSI's and complex injector atomizations, I think if I were buying a new TDI, I would be tempted to see if there is an additional fuel filtering system to invest in first. Of course if you invest in both..guess the next big dollar weak link will be? I'm thinking transmission..
I too would like to see an extra economical diesel p/u. In order for me to have the *extra* economical ability, since 4 WD would also have to be part of the package, I'd also be fine with a small to mid-sized truck. In an ideal world, not too big, but designed still to be able to slip a pc of plywood between the wheel wells...I guess basically Dodge Dakota sized. The width doesn't have to be there in the box for the 4' clearance, but it does up front to ensure elbow and shoulder room and side crash protection.
I would like to be able to order this truck with ALL options available INDEPENDENT of each other, by ticking off the boxes like in the old days. I'd pay for a heated steering wheel and ventilated seats, and REALLY good seats support-wise, but would not pay for nor want a sunrooof or auto-climate control.
I'd be fine with a 4 or 5 cylinder and agree on the inline engine config for longevity and smoothness. I also would be fine if it was not a torque monster in the excess because there goes the economy potential. I spent a w/e with friends in their ML350 diesel, and while 400+ ftlbs is intoxicating and a real giggle at times, basically that same vehicle would be just fine and tow capable if it had 250 ftlbs. of course if you want to tow a travel trailer etc, then yes...that's where the 6 cyl could come into play, but even in this real world example, the heaviest thing they tow is merely a Seadoo.
My perfect truck would also be SUPER quiet, in both road and wind noise. To me that is even more important than ride as long as the ride is not too sharp. I don't care if I had to pay for triple thickness glass (and all the other measures req'd) to ensure that quiet. I just came back from a w/e with friends and the (only) 2.5 hr drive one way, was almost exhausting with road and wind noise in my CRV. And that noise was created at only 55 and 65 mph..the two most common speeds I did.
Oh ya, of course it MUST have a lo-range capable transfer case for my specific tasks in my area. I work in an area of very steep hills. They are not long but so steep that many are paved driveways going down to the lake/cottage to avoid erosion from big rainfalls. Lo-range around here is literally a fuel/clutch/torque converter saver.
Fewer computers and dealer dependency would be my fantasy ending on this truck. And FWIW..I'm not yet convinced that I would trust GM again, and I have been boycotting Ford for 25 years now. I suppose if one of them actually offered what I described above, I might reconsider GM. I think out of principle I would have to continue my boycott with Ford for life even though they have tempted me with certain vehicles at times.
And to echo gagrice's welcome...hope you enjoy the board here.
#8989 of 11747 WSJ Tues 30 Ap 13 "Chrysler Hits Pothole"
Apr 30, 2013 (12:09 pm)
If one likes the Jeep GC TDI or is a Chrysler fan and/or both, I would think now is a good time to look at that OEM'S diesel offering. Another motivator might be Chrysler makes operating profit of $764 on each car and LT. (consumer) Incentives have increased by $300 a vehicle to $3,400. The broader back drop are massive losses, (slowdown in sales and idle factories) and widespread reinvestments, among others.
#8990 of 11747 Re: WSJ Tues 30 Ap 13 "Chrysler Hits Pothole" [ruking1]
May 01, 2013 (7:48 am)
The incentives apply to the diesel too? That's surprising. In Cda they offer a lot of incentives on some of the Ram pickups, but the desirable one in terms of better FE with the 3.6 V6 / 8 speed auto, isn't among them. I think they are foolish to pedestal that combo. Because when they finally offer the VM diesel in the pickup (assuming it ends up being a good engine once Chrysler has finished emission strangling it) anyone in the know, isn't going to be interested in any of the gas jobs...well, except for maybe the diesel haters that is..
I think too that little by little, truck buyers who actually work their truck, are starting to get a little tired of FE claims with gas job packaging promising high mpg (Ford's Ecoboost as an example) that don't measure up in the real world. I haven't heard if the RAM Eco type package is delivering in that regard or not. Maybe this is the time buyers could be swayed to give the diesels an honest chance once again in America. Especially if they don't screw it up..are you listening Chrysler...re your Liberty diesel fiasco??
Ford, OTOH, will probably belligerently keep making promises with their gasser Ecoboosts cuz it probably still owes them big time.
#8991 of 11747 Re: WSJ Tues 30 Ap 13 "Chrysler Hits Pothole" [gimmestdtranny]
May 01, 2013 (8:56 am)
Indeed the incentives are situational. That has been true over the years for VW diesels. However over those same time frames, not all manufacturers have been offering diesels.
May 01, 2013 (10:29 am)
I see the diesel A8 is now on the road, local dealer has one.
#8993 of 11747 Re: . [fintail]
May 01, 2013 (10:51 am)
A lot off topic Fintail, but how are you liking the ( 7 speed?) A/T in your MB Bluetec?
May 01, 2013 (11:07 am)
Just finished a survey from Honda on my '13 Accord. One of the questions they asked was would you like to see a diesel option? I gave it a 5 on a scale of 1 to 5. So it is in the bag. Expect an Accord diesel in a few years.