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#8949 of 11625 Re: GLK250 First Look [Mr_Shiftright]
Apr 26, 2013 (1:36 pm)
It is SO logical as to defy logic, why they took SO long !
Sort of an interesting example, VW Touareg also comes in a (supercharged) gasser hybrid. It is app 18k more than the TDI. The power approaches a V8 (428 # ft vs a weak 406 # ft TDI ) . However for what most CUV/SUV drivers want it for, the TDI gets better fuel mileage over the hybrid.
#8950 of 11625 Re: GLK250 First Look [ruking1]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Apr 26, 2013 (1:33 pm)
Diesels are best for hauling weight around. That's where they can beat the gas engine hands down...in lightweight little cars the match-up is so close, and the profit margins so small, that it's simply not a great idea to put a diesel engine in a tiny little car.
#8951 of 11625 Re: GLK250 First Look [Mr_Shiftright]
Apr 26, 2013 (2:13 pm)
Over 180,000 miles, the so called smaller (1.9 L) diesel power plant has proved itself. 90 hp/155# ft of torque in a 2,950# body, 50 mpg
#8952 of 11625 Re: - [gimmestdtranny]
Apr 26, 2013 (7:05 pm)
In NJ,. you pay sales tax (7%) on restautant food, eat in or take out.
but, we don't pay any tax on clothes. go figure.
and still some of the lowest gas taxes of any state.
too bad we have the highest property taxes in the nation. I would gladly drop 10K from my property taxes in exchange for sales tax on my underwear.
#8953 of 11625 What would it take for me to buy a diesel?
Apr 27, 2013 (1:54 am)
I am a diesel proponet. I currenly own a 2005 VW Golf with a 1.9 L TDI deisel. It was purchased new. At 5000 miles the oil presure sending unit was moved/extended to accomodate the installation of a high efficiency oil by pass filter. This also increased the volume of oil by one, (1), quart. From the first oil change and every one since, Amsoil European Synthetic has been in the crankcase. Fuel consuption typically averages in excess of 50 mpg around town and better than 57 mpg long hauling. The worst fuel milage has been 47 mpg during brutal New England cold spells.
If America would build a solid small 1/2 ton pick up truck with a straight 4 cylinder or 6 straight cylinder diesel engine, I would buy it. Tomorrow. The Indian company, Mahindra, wanted to import just such a diesel truck, but they could not pass the EPA requiremnts. It was rumored the test was performed while carrying a payload of 100 environmentalists and attornies.
What up GM? If you build it, it will sell. I'll take a dozen.
#8954 of 11625 Re: - [stickguy]
Apr 27, 2013 (2:13 am)
I would gladly drop 10K from my property taxes in exchange for sales tax on my underwear.
That is a big factor in my looking for a place to move from CA. All our taxes are high here. Though Prop 13 kind of protects the home owner from bubbles in home values. You may move to a state that has no income tax like TX and find they have very high property taxes. Look at the positive. Your high property taxes are a direct write-off from the Feds. Sales taxes are not a write-off. We pay 9.75% sales tax on food that is prepared. Not at the grocery store. Just about everything else is taxed including gas. Making US 1 or 2 for high fuel tax.
#8955 of 11625 Re: What would it take for me to buy a diesel? [scurvydog42]
Apr 27, 2013 (2:17 am)
If America would build a solid small 1/2 ton pick up truck with a straight 4 cylinder or 6 straight cylinder diesel engine, I would buy it.
I have been screaming that on Edmunds for 16 years. The D3 have been protected by the Chicken tax on small PU trucks and CA has successfully held back small diesel engines. Which tells US fuel economy in this country is not a factor to the folks running the show.
Welcome to the forum.......
#8956 of 11625 Re: What would it take for me to buy a diesel? [gagrice]
Apr 27, 2013 (4:01 am)
What Is the Chicken Tax refered to in post 8955?
What configuration would you like to see in a small American PU? (and I mean an all American diesel, not some Italian made clang banger as in the Liberty)
We may have to build our own...
I know my TDI cost a hefty additional $1800 upfront, but, it has paid dividends every day since. Savings in fuel costs paid for the vehicle and any fuel consumed in less than 100K. (Cost avoidance/savings in going from 17 mpg to 50 mpg was significant)
#8957 of 11625 Re: What would it take for me to buy a diesel? [scurvydog42]
Apr 27, 2013 (7:43 am)
The so called "chicken tax" was PROBABLY a vernacular reference to the 25% duty the US levies on ill defined EVERCHANGING and rubber ban ruling of FOREIGN cars. Indeed a duty/ies might STILL be levied on specific "FOREIGN" components, but not on the whole unit.
My like for like (4800 to 4974#) SUV for CUV (14-17 mpg to 29 to 32 mpg) spans 27 years (hope for change) has so called significant difference in FE (12 to 15 mpg vs 30 mpg) 100% BETTER FE (50% savings). Of course a few to many on this board has labeled this INsignificant.
Now both of the 90's TLC SUV's have clicked 200K + miles, so lets just use 225k each or 450,000 miles 15-30 mpg. Over the course of these two SUV's 450,000 miles, I have used 30,000 gals vs 15,000 gals that I would rather it had been.
Those same folks, labeling it insignificant can punch in the numbers the current RUG/PUG/D2 prices to see how insignificant 60,000 dollars might be to their budgets.
#8958 of 11625 Re: GLK250 First Look [ruking1]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Apr 27, 2013 (8:17 am)
But that's nothing that a similar or even smaller gas engine car couldn't do. Gas engines can go 225,000 or more, no problem. So those stats don't "prove' anything really. And besides, most small diesel cars don't get 50 mpg. More like 40. And you go slower, pay more for fuel and have smelly hands....
At least in a big truck or SUV or 6 passenger sedan, you're hauling weight or people, and can take advantage of larger diesels, to offset these disadvantages.