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#8667 of 11731 Re: GLK diesel. [gagrice]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Mar 26, 2013 (12:41 pm)
I don't think the difference in a crossover getting 30 mpg is going to constitute a "fortune" in gas over the GLK250. It's going to be more like $300-$400 a year, especially if the gasser runs regular.
It's got to be more about luxury than economy to buy this vehicle.
#8668 of 11731 Re: GLK diesel. [Mr_Shiftright]
Mar 26, 2013 (1:13 pm)
I do think you have something there in that it is a question of "like models over time".
So for example (I dont know what the GLK250 gasser/diesels gets) VWT 30/20 mpg = 3,333/5,000 gals =1,667 gals over 100,000 miles. Right now, 1,667 more gal 4 per gal = $6,668/10 years/10k miles per year= $667 per year more. Over 10 years time the diesel's resale is/has been a premium to the gasser.
#8669 of 11731 Re: GLK diesel. [Mr_Shiftright]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Mar 26, 2013 (1:57 pm)
So what's MB's perk going to be to convince someone to pay a substantial sum of money for a crossover of modest size? (probably more than $40,000 out the door).
Not a diesel issue, but MB has to sell on their brand I think. The problem is that BMW and Audi are hurting their luxury sales and even "regular" VWs have grabbed some of their potential "performance" market. I bet Dieter will be gone this year.
#8670 of 11731 Re: GLK diesel. [Mr_Shiftright]
Mar 26, 2013 (5:33 pm)
If the pricing follows the Canadian model, the GLK250 diesel will start out $1500 less that the 350 gas model, which from what I saw on the Mercedes USA site means it could start at around $35,000 down there. As I said the combined milage rating in Canada is 7.2 L/100k or about 33 MPG, note this is combined not highway! This means it is getting 40+ on the highway unless the highway and city MPG are closer than normal, there are no gas model CUV's with AWD getting this kind of milage in Nort America ( the best FWD models are getting 33 mpg highway so there is a significant difference in milage). I think waiting to release it as a 2014 model in the states could be a mistake if Mazda , BMW, Audi or VW beat the to being the first out the gates. I think it could be a very nice CUV for a lot of people, but so could one of the others, it should be interesting to see what develops in the next year or so. I have to take the smart into the dealer for a recall, will have to check out the GLK if I have a chance just to see what it is like ( also the new B Class in interesting as well)
#8671 of 11731 Re: GLK diesel. [scwmcan]
Mar 26, 2013 (6:36 pm)
( also the new B Class in interesting as well)
Don't you get the B class with diesel already? I ran into a couple with a MB B CDI. They said they were from Canada. Though the plates looked European. They were loving the little thing. Looked like a smaller version of the GLK.
#8672 of 11731 Re: GLK diesel. [gagrice]
Mar 26, 2013 (7:11 pm)
No diesel B in Canada, although they have much more tolerant private import rules, so who knows what might get in. It also doesn't really look like a GLK to me, it is a tiny van or a tall hatch:
I've seen plenty of these in Seattle, with BC plates.
#8673 of 11731 Re: GLK diesel. [fintail]
Mar 26, 2013 (7:16 pm)
I never really compared them closely. I just remember seeing the one and wondering what it was. It was a CDI and the owner said it got great mileage. He may have shipped it home to Canada. They may have easier import rules than we have. That was about 3 years ago. They sell 3 different size diesel engines in the B according to the UK carpages.
#8674 of 11731 Re: GLK diesel. [gagrice]
Mar 26, 2013 (7:20 pm)
If you spend some time in major Canadian cities, you will see freakshow cars that have been privately imported. No lame 25 year rule.
I think there are 5 different E-class diesel engines in Germany.
#8675 of 11731 Re: GLK diesel. [fintail]
Mar 26, 2013 (7:24 pm)
It used to be that way here. I had a friend in Alaska that spent his vacations in Europe. He would pick up some used exotic and drive it around on vacation then ship it home. Had a 6 car garage. He liked old Rolls a lot.
#8676 of 11731 Re: GLK diesel. [gagrice]
Mar 26, 2013 (7:43 pm)
Back in the 60s and 70s especially, that was a popular thing to do - ship over old Rolls, especially those from about 1930-60. They were dirt cheap in the UK, as they were thirsty, big, and expensive to fix. They were very exotic in NA, so a little money could be made shipping them over and selling.