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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 24, 2009 8:48 am) Really what CAN Congress say? No and be the sugar momma/daddy for the big four GM/Ford/Chrysler/UAW, a failing industry even by their own and Congressional testimony accounts (Bail out monies)? Gagrice's issue: I think he and others have made the point the Congressional, executive, regulatory, logistical systems etc,etc., likes GREATER/better fuel consumption. It is as easy as do you really want folks to switch fast? Here is an easy one make diesel fuel cheaper than gas. Want them to switch even faster ? Give diesel fuel and cars meaning full TAX CREDITS. Most thinking folks do not need a 2x4 across the forehead to see that 48 mpg (in a comparable CUV) is better than 22 mpg???. 
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 24, 2009 8:48 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 24, 2009 9:01 am) Not many in this country I am afraid. I have said it all along. If the mileage is high enough I will give up some comfort. I can tell you I am NOT going to give up the comfort of my Sequoia for a lousy 10 MPG gain. That is why I am torn on going with the new BMW X5 diesel. It is only rated about 7 MPG better than the Sequoia. I would give up size and some comfort. I would gain mileage, performance and handling. So it is tempting. Reports lead me to believe I could get 30 MPG on the open road.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 24, 2009 9:04 am)  ). It was plush, and it took us a while to figure out what it was. Then another friend got one and the Anchorage dealer closed within a year and he couldn't get it worked on. Took a bath on it. One of my links said that the Lion would be coming out with a diesel-electric hybrid next year. CLEAN diesel - is that like clean coal? 
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 24, 2009 9:12 am) Indeed if folks want to peruse the Edmunds.com article about it, truly making the SUV's/PU/big car segments diesel would probably yield the most savings. |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 24, 2009 9:15 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 24, 2009 9:29 am) I can't wait for a diesel/electric silver Peugeot Pollyanna to fill a slot in my garage. 
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 24, 2009 9:58 am) I have read that the US is Venuezula's top customer  upwards of 93% of that countries oil production.   Financial news has it, (actually a swag) he needs sustained $ 80. oil ( per barrel) for his political stability.  Gee I wonder if banana peel waste is good for bio diesel? He had a bout of mocking HIS best customer...... now this could not be turn around? So yes, be VERY careful for what one wishes.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 24, 2009 10:07 am) And yeah, without expensive oil, his political (and real) capital is way down.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 24, 2009 10:09 am) I think that clean coal is still a bit worse than clean diesel. The EU seems very happy with diesel without Urea on the bigger ones. When you look at total emissions, diesel comes out looking better than gasoline. There is a LOT of false data floating around in the USA about harmful diesel emissions. I would guess most can be traced to oil company money. They have a lot of excess gasoline and not so much excess distillates to sell. Most of it is old data based on engines without particulate filters and not using ULSD. I would like to see a side by side comparison of a Jetta 4 cylinder gas and TDI. Look at all the emissions. Not cherry pick as CARB & the EPA have done.
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