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#8497 of 9316 Re: latest Wrangler news [ruking1]
by gagrice
Mar 03, 2013 (10:02 pm)
I thought BMW had trashed the Run Flats along with MB. No way would I buy any vehicle with Run Flat tires. Over priced rough riding CRAP. If BMW wants to continue their great run, they need to drop the RUN FLATS.
#8498 of 9316 Re: latest Wrangler news [gagrice]
by tifighter
Mar 03, 2013 (10:52 pm)
I test drove a X5D a few months ago, and it was fitted with run-flats.
Mar 03, 2013 (11:59 pm)
20mph average speed errand run today averaged 26.5mpg - I can deal with that.
Someone must be buying diesel cars - local MB dealer had 2 other E Bluetecs when I bought my car, both are now sold.
#8500 of 9316 Re: . [fintail]
by ruking1
Mar 04, 2013 (7:28 am)
I do not know this for sure, but there seems to be a lot of new (committed) MB's off load
dealers from trucks hit their preparation/repair department and don't hit the inventory lists. It seems I get the calls when one hits the (local) dealer when a customer either changes their mind or cancels out.
#8501 of 9316 Re: latest Wrangler news [tifighter]
by gagrice
Mar 04, 2013 (7:41 am)
My local bank manager hates his run flats. First week after he bought it he picked up a nail. They cannot be repaired. $380 for a new tire. That was on a 135i coupe. Can you just imagine what it would cost for an X5 tire?
I am seriously waiting on the 2014 Jeep GC diesel. Many innovations not offered on the competitors. NO RUN FLATS on JGC.
http://www.driveuconnect.com/system/2014/jeep/grand_cherokee/8-4an-ra4/
#8502 of 9316 Re: latest Wrangler news [gagrice]
by ruking1
Mar 04, 2013 (9:06 am)
From what I have heard and read about run flats, it is more than enough to make me raise the bar on getting cars that oem WITH run flats. There are a lot of opaque engineering and specification issues but higher costs, operational and acquisition and worse ride compliance can not be good observable things.
#8503 of 9316 Re: latest Wrangler news [gagrice]
by ateixeira
Mar 04, 2013 (10:02 am)
Run-flats are the #1 complaint on the Sienna boards. They cost double but last half as long.
Mar 04, 2013 (10:54 pm)
Took the car on its first highway jaunt today, around 40 miles, 40mph average speed - mix of 65mph cruising and stopped-for-no-reason idiocy. 34.3mpg - not bad as the car doesn't yet have 300 miles on it, already beating the EPA estimate.
Mar 05, 2013 (8:22 am)
Well, a diesel does make sense when it doesn't cost appreciably more than gas and delivers a lower cost per mile ... ie, better MPG at basically the same cost per gallon (diesel vs premium, which is what's the norm for MB).
-hh
Mar 05, 2013 (8:27 am)
wow..so cool..a car of that weight..gas hybrids, eat your hearts out.. (while in your dreams)
Is this MB engine also one of those graphite iron type blocks? Ya know, I don't actually recall if any of the diesels I have ever read about, use aluminum blocks..
There is a strengthening two-piece oil pan to help offer up rigidity on the VW block. I would imagine MB must also use reinforcing measures too..