What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

9316 messages,  Last post on May 20, 2013 at 9:10 PM

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#8497 of 9316 Re: latest Wrangler news [ruking1] by gagrice

Mar 03, 2013 (10:02 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 03, 2013 9:45 pm)
I thought BMW had trashed the Run Flats along with MB. No way would I buy any vehicle with Run Flat tires. Over priced rough riding CRAP. If BMW wants to continue their great run, they need to drop the RUN FLATS.

#8498 of 9316 Re: latest Wrangler news [gagrice] by tifighter

Mar 03, 2013 (10:52 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 03, 2013 10:02 pm)
I test drove a X5D a few months ago, and it was fitted with run-flats.

#8499 of 9316 . by fintail

Mar 03, 2013 (11:59 pm)

20mph average speed errand run today averaged 26.5mpg - I can deal with that.
 
Someone must be buying diesel cars - local MB dealer had 2 other E Bluetecs when I bought my car, both are now sold.

#8500 of 9316 Re: . [fintail] by ruking1

Mar 04, 2013 (7:28 am)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 03, 2013 11:59 pm)
I do not know this for sure, but there seems to be a lot of new (committed) MB's off load dealers from trucks hit their preparation/repair department and don't hit the inventory lists. It seems I get the calls when one hits the (local) dealer when a customer either changes their mind or cancels out.

#8501 of 9316 Re: latest Wrangler news [tifighter] by gagrice

Mar 04, 2013 (7:41 am)

Replying to: tifighter (Mar 03, 2013 10:52 pm)
My local bank manager hates his run flats. First week after he bought it he picked up a nail. They cannot be repaired. $380 for a new tire. That was on a 135i coupe. Can you just imagine what it would cost for an X5 tire?
 
I am seriously waiting on the 2014 Jeep GC diesel. Many innovations not offered on the competitors. NO RUN FLATS on JGC.
 
http://www.driveuconnect.com/system/2014/jeep/grand_cherokee/8-4an-ra4/

#8502 of 9316 Re: latest Wrangler news [gagrice] by ruking1

Mar 04, 2013 (9:06 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 04, 2013 7:41 am)
From what I have heard and read about run flats, it is more than enough to make me raise the bar on getting cars that oem WITH run flats. There are a lot of opaque engineering and specification issues but higher costs, operational and acquisition and worse ride compliance can not be good observable things.

#8503 of 9316 Re: latest Wrangler news [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 04, 2013 (10:02 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 04, 2013 7:41 am)
Run-flats are the #1 complaint on the Sienna boards. They cost double but last half as long.

#8504 of 9316 . by fintail

Mar 04, 2013 (10:54 pm)

Took the car on its first highway jaunt today, around 40 miles, 40mph average speed - mix of 65mph cruising and stopped-for-no-reason idiocy. 34.3mpg - not bad as the car doesn't yet have 300 miles on it, already beating the EPA estimate.

#8505 of 9316 Re: . [fintail] by huntzinger

Mar 05, 2013 (8:22 am)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 03, 2013 11:59 pm)
Well, a diesel does make sense when it doesn't cost appreciably more than gas and delivers a lower cost per mile ... ie, better MPG at basically the same cost per gallon (diesel vs premium, which is what's the norm for MB).
 
-hh

#8506 of 9316 Re: . [fintail] by gimmestdtranny

Mar 05, 2013 (8:27 am)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 04, 2013 10:54 pm)
wow..so cool..a car of that weight..gas hybrids, eat your hearts out.. (while in your dreams)
 
Is this MB engine also one of those graphite iron type blocks? Ya know, I don't actually recall if any of the diesels I have ever read about, use aluminum blocks..
 
There is a strengthening two-piece oil pan to help offer up rigidity on the VW block. I would imagine MB must also use reinforcing measures too..
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