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#8493 of 9361 Re: latest Wrangler news [gimmestdtranny] by ruking1

Mar 03, 2013 (8:38 pm)

Replying to: gimmestdtranny (Mar 03, 2013 8:04 pm)
Oh gosh NO !!
 
I didn't go into the VW Touareg 3.0L thinking: gee, VW TDI four bangers dodged the dangling by the horse hairs SWORDS. Therefore the V6 and much more power SHOULD !
 
There are some on this board that think I am just a shrill for VW. Secondarily for diesels in general. However the majority of cars I have had in my life were GASSERS, and NOT VW's. Indeed I still own majority GASSERS. I have taken least three to 200,000 miles plus +. Another logical question would be why would I even want to gamble with that for a so called unreliable diesel ('s in my case)?? Trust me if any three were any more a gamble with lesser odds, I positively absolutely would NOT have made the switch (to diesel).
 
But the (obvious or so I thought) truth is: I personally have THE MOST to lose, especially with 3 VW diesels. If anything in my case, VW is really defying the odds as all three have been flawless. If you listen to some, ALL could have just as easily been ... lemons. Do I think I got all three A products? Not on your or my life. I think statistically, I did get C products or middle most. I am fairly sure I did not get the D/F grade products or lemons.
 
Indeed my first preference for the 2nd TDI (09 Jetta TDI) was in fact the BMW 330 D. The BMW X5 35D was not even a consideration.

#8494 of 9361 Re: latest Wrangler news [ruking1] by tifighter

Mar 03, 2013 (8:41 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 03, 2013 8:38 pm)
The BMW X5 35D was not even a consideration.
 
Why not?

#8495 of 9361 Re: latest Wrangler news [tifighter] by gagrice

Mar 03, 2013 (8:55 pm)

Replying to: tifighter (Mar 03, 2013 8:41 pm)
The BMW X5 35D was not even a consideration.
Why not?
 
I am curious about that as well. I liked driving the X5D when they first came out. There is a good supply in my part of CA. I do prefer the inline 6 cylinder design, though it takes up more space. My only complaint was the X5 seats being much harder than the Mercedes or my Sequoia. Not sure how that would affect me after 600 miles on the highway.

#8496 of 9361 Re: latest Wrangler news [tifighter] by ruking1

Mar 03, 2013 (9:45 pm)

Replying to: tifighter (Mar 03, 2013 8:41 pm)
The BMW X5 35 D most certainly was when I was considering the VW Touareg TDI, as well as the MB ML350 BlueTec. The MDX was the unofficial standard, sans not having a diesel engine.
 
The BMW 330 D was really for majority of commuting miles (78%) with up to 4 folks in the car. Anybody I knew that had BMW's 3 series and others and on line research indicated 30k high normal for 800+ per set tires. Both sets of H VW Jetta sedan tires are on track for 120,000 miles 490. Higher insurance costs and lower resale value %. Way more up front monies to own and no real dealing going on. Plus that time I had no real want/need to be able to pass chain controls points.
 
I think 500 and PLUS miles are not done by a lot of people. The longest I have done in the VW T has been 430 in a day. I have done as much as 965 to 1,100 in a day in other vehicles. But on those trips, I think it may have been much more fun to have more than one driver.

#8497 of 9361 Re: latest Wrangler news [ruking1] by gagrice

Mar 03, 2013 (10:02 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 03, 2013 9:45 pm)
I thought BMW had trashed the Run Flats along with MB. No way would I buy any vehicle with Run Flat tires. Over priced rough riding CRAP. If BMW wants to continue their great run, they need to drop the RUN FLATS.

#8498 of 9361 Re: latest Wrangler news [gagrice] by tifighter

Mar 03, 2013 (10:52 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 03, 2013 10:02 pm)
I test drove a X5D a few months ago, and it was fitted with run-flats.

#8499 of 9361 . by fintail

Mar 03, 2013 (11:59 pm)

20mph average speed errand run today averaged 26.5mpg - I can deal with that.
 
Someone must be buying diesel cars - local MB dealer had 2 other E Bluetecs when I bought my car, both are now sold.

#8500 of 9361 Re: . [fintail] by ruking1

Mar 04, 2013 (7:28 am)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 03, 2013 11:59 pm)
I do not know this for sure, but there seems to be a lot of new (committed) MB's off load dealers from trucks hit their preparation/repair department and don't hit the inventory lists. It seems I get the calls when one hits the (local) dealer when a customer either changes their mind or cancels out.

#8501 of 9361 Re: latest Wrangler news [tifighter] by gagrice

Mar 04, 2013 (7:41 am)

Replying to: tifighter (Mar 03, 2013 10:52 pm)
My local bank manager hates his run flats. First week after he bought it he picked up a nail. They cannot be repaired. $380 for a new tire. That was on a 135i coupe. Can you just imagine what it would cost for an X5 tire?
 
I am seriously waiting on the 2014 Jeep GC diesel. Many innovations not offered on the competitors. NO RUN FLATS on JGC.
 
http://www.driveuconnect.com/system/2014/jeep/grand_cherokee/8-4an-ra4/

#8502 of 9361 Re: latest Wrangler news [gagrice] by ruking1

Mar 04, 2013 (9:06 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 04, 2013 7:41 am)
From what I have heard and read about run flats, it is more than enough to make me raise the bar on getting cars that oem WITH run flats. There are a lot of opaque engineering and specification issues but higher costs, operational and acquisition and worse ride compliance can not be good observable things.

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