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#8470 of 9351 Re: For Gary [gimmestdtranny] by scwmcan

Mar 01, 2013 (4:13 am)

Replying to: gimmestdtranny (Feb 28, 2013 8:03 pm)
It's not $57k to start, that is for the fully loaded version, it is ( an admittedly not much better) $47k for one with AWD ( or close to that don't have the exact number here, but it s at least $10k less than what you are using). That said it may still be too high, but when Motor Trend compared similarly equipped versions the jeep was about $2000 less than the VW, is that enough of a difference? Only time will tell ( and until a comaprisn test is done by a magazine and /or one of us, we won't know which one is really supposed to be the better drive)

#8471 of 9351 Re: For Gary [scwmcan] by ruking1

Mar 01, 2013 (8:36 am)

Replying to: scwmcan (Mar 01, 2013 4:13 am)
I think everyone would agree, for the (2013) Jeep TDI (or whatever they are calling it) in question at this time, almost everything is subject to speculation. Cars.com shows ZERO inventory.
 
I haven't a clue if one can go to the dealer, plunk order deposits down, put one's name on one: off either inventory or assembly line.
 
Since some would say the (2013) VW Touareg TDI would be ONE of the Jeep's competitors, Cars.com shows 621 units inventory: prices listed 45.5k to 61.2k.
 
It is hard to understand (from an over all point of view) why they didn't start this (inventory roll out) PRE 2013 model year? It might be a case of better late but earlier somewhat to the party than not at all.? Or maybe a planned "SOFT" opening. But then on the other hand, its nice to tell folks you are hyperventilating because you can not keep up with the (artificially) high demand, rather than having months of inventory one is having trouble.... selling. GM, Chrysler & FORD have almost perpetually been there. If they are smart, they will try NOT to repeat the process.
 
CNBC just aired a piece where some auto sector pundit estimated a 15 to 15.5 M unit 2013 MY sales, arguably the best (projection) since the crash (10.5 M units or app 47.8% BETTER)

#8472 of 9351 Re: . [gagrice] by fintail

Mar 01, 2013 (8:46 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Feb 28, 2013 10:12 pm)
I don't mind it. As traffic is so horrible here, it's not always possible to do much free wheeling anyway. And it reminds me of my old car, which behaves the same way. If we could just get a nice sunny Sunday, I will take it out for a real cruise and see how it performs.

#8473 of 9351 Re: . [fintail] by ateixeira

Mar 01, 2013 (9:02 am)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 28, 2013 8:03 pm)
my average speed was 11mph
 
Are you visiting DC?

#8474 of 9351 Spy pic of new wagon by ateixeira

Mar 01, 2013 (9:07 am)

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/28/volkswagen-golf-wagon-caught-completely-uncov- ered/

#8475 of 9351 Re: For Gary [scwmcan] by gagrice

Mar 01, 2013 (12:49 pm)

Replying to: scwmcan (Mar 01, 2013 4:13 am)
A comparison of the Touareg TDI, JGC diesel, ML350 Bluetech and X5D would be great. Those 4 are probably the best of the best in On/Off Road vehicles sold in the USA this year. I would like to see Jeep and MB get more involved in World class racing like the Dakar Rally.

#8476 of 9351 Re: For Gary [ruking1] by gagrice

Mar 01, 2013 (1:22 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Mar 01, 2013 8:36 am)
I haven't a clue if one can go to the dealer, plunk order deposits down, put one's name on one: off either inventory or assembly line.
  
Since some would say the (2013) VW Touareg TDI would be ONE of the Jeep's competitors, Cars.com shows 621 units inventory: prices listed 45.5k to 61.2k.
 
I am on the list to test drive the JGC diesel when it first shows up here. I don't expect it till the end of this month or into April. Pricing has been announced sort of. Nothing on the Jeep website yet.
 
As for Touareg TDI, only 2 LUX within 100 miles of me. I am not driving 100 miles to Palm Springs to test drive one. Our local dealer moved and is under new ownership. I stopped in and they did not have any TDIs. Of course they gave me the line that they are all sold before they get here. Which may or may not be true. My one complaint is the rear seat is not as comfy as the Mercedes or have as much leg room. I would put the Touareg up against the other 3 for off road ability. On the basis of their records and off road racing wins. I did notice that BMW finally won the Dakar rally this year. In a Mini with their 6 cylinder diesel engine. Not sure how they got it into a Mini.
 
http://www.minimotorsport.com/en/dakar/car

#8477 of 9351 latest Wrangler news by steve_ HOST

Mar 01, 2013 (2:41 pm)

"The diesel will be available in the 2016 Wrangler, which will debut in 2015.
 
"The engine will be introduced toward the end of the model's lifecycle to boost sales before they bring in the redesigned model," according to an industry source who asked not to be identified."
 
2016 Jeep Wrangler To Get Diesel Engine

#8478 of 9351 . by fintail

Mar 01, 2013 (7:35 pm)

Had better luck in today's evening commute - was able to move faster, so I could make more lights (going the limit here means you miss a lot of them). 27.2mpg. Pretty nice. Old car would have maybe hit 15 in that driving.

#8479 of 9351 Re: latest Wrangler news [steve_] by ruking1

Mar 02, 2013 (6:40 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 01, 2013 2:41 pm)
I am swagging most JEEP fans who off road are going, what took em sooooooo long? (max torque low RPM)

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