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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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#8460 of 9316 Re: For Gary [ruking1] by gimmestdtranny

Feb 28, 2013 (8:03 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Feb 28, 2013 5:57 pm)
If it is a ZF, it will probably be a good trans. Also probably one of the reasons they think they are going to gouge the livin' daylights outta any prospective buyers.
57k to start?? That is outrageous..it is just a lousy pc of bleep ChryJeep..
 
That is darn close to a demo ML350 which would come with an entire extra year of wty, over the JGC. Not to mention, just being a MB, with enjoyment expectations being met (as opposed to hoped for) when you spend that kinda money..
 
I must admit, it really irks me when NA mfrs do that...you're already forced to anti up more bucks for the diesel..why add in$ult upon injury by also forcing you into the top trims? Then they'll blame poor sales on it being a diesel..Idiots..
 
edit- or even a Touareg...the V Dub must also be a far more enjoyable overall pkg than anything Jeep could come up with..especially in ride/handling and quietness.
edit2- which also has an extra year wty..

#8461 of 9316 Re: For Gary [gimmestdtranny] by ruking1

Feb 28, 2013 (8:09 pm)

Replying to: gimmestdtranny (Feb 28, 2013 8:03 pm)
While not quite YET related to Jeep diesels, here is an article talking about probably MORE than what most folks wanted to know about A/T's.
 
A/T 9 speed
 
Here is a 2007 Maylasian article about the 8 speed A/T ZF
 
link title
 
I do not have a literal clue about how it might be configured for the US market.

#8462 of 9316 . by fintail

Feb 28, 2013 (8:03 pm)

Worst mileage yet for the evening commute - 21.8. This is because my average speed was 11mph. Hit every red light but one, which created some traffic backups. Kudos to our oxymoronically-named civil engineers!

#8463 of 9316 Re: For Gary [ruking1] by gimmestdtranny

Feb 28, 2013 (8:12 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Feb 28, 2013 8:09 pm)
Ya, that's a good read. I've read it before..
And there's the reason it's (the 9 sp) not getting matched up to the 3.0 diesel. It's just too light.

#8464 of 9316 Re: . [fintail] by gimmestdtranny

Feb 28, 2013 (8:14 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 28, 2013 8:03 pm)
Still tho, fin..would have been a lot worse idling start stopping a gas job. And if you're gonna be in traffic like that, at least you're coddled.

#8465 of 9316 Re: . [gimmestdtranny] by fintail

Feb 28, 2013 (8:15 pm)

Replying to: gimmestdtranny (Feb 28, 2013 8:14 pm)
Yeah. The old car would have been around 13. At least I was irritated in comfort

#8466 of 9316 Re: For Gary [gimmestdtranny] by ruking1

Feb 28, 2013 (8:18 pm)

Replying to: gimmestdtranny (Feb 28, 2013 8:12 pm)
Yes, I have mentioned it before. While "arcane", the Aisin in the VW T does have a 627 # ft of torque handling capacity. Its' TDI throws out 406 # ft, so that converts to app 54% (extra) safety room.

#8467 of 9316 Re: . [fintail] by ruking1

Feb 28, 2013 (8:23 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 28, 2013 8:15 pm)
While we are on the subject, talk to us about the MB's A/T.

#8468 of 9316 Re: . [ruking1] by fintail

Feb 28, 2013 (8:36 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Feb 28, 2013 8:23 pm)
It feels pretty normal - I notice it shifting, but it is faint, I don't have the shift points memorized yet. I drive it in the 2nd gear start mode, as I want it to be mellow. I have noticed it downshifts and engine brakes when you let off the gas, which I kind of like.

#8469 of 9316 Re: . [fintail] by gagrice

Feb 28, 2013 (10:12 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 28, 2013 8:36 pm)
I have noticed it downshifts and engine brakes when you let off the gas, which I kind of like.
 
That is what I did not like with the GL350 Bluetech I drove. I like a car to free wheel when I let off the throttle. I like to downshift if I want engine braking. For me it slowed the vehicle way too fast. The BMW X5 diesel did not do that. If ZF supplies BMW transmission, why don't they have the latest. And it looks like ZF is building a factory in SC.
 
Most of the transmissions used by Chrysler will be made at the automaker’s Kokomo, Indiana, Transmission Plant but some will be built by ZF itself at a new transmission plant in Greenville, South Carolina. Chrysler is investing $300 million in the Kokomo plant. The new ZF facility, the first ZF plant to make car transmissions in the USA, will also make the 9-speed automatic transmission for transverse-mounted engine applications that was presented at the North American International Auto Show
 

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