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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 19, 2009 12:15 pm) Indeed, it wouldn't be a bad occupation to take care of a small vineyard after retirement. I really don't know how much the cost would be, but may be the crisis would help. Regards, Jose |
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 19, 2009 7:54 am) 
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"At this rate, it will take prohibitively long to make up the price premium you pay for the diesel-powered 3 Series in the savings in fuel cost. By virtue of burning less fuel, however, the 335i also emits considerably less CO2 every year — 7.79 tons/year vs. 9.76 tons/year. So the answer for those whose hearts are green is simple: Buy the 335d." Torques a Lot, Emits a Little  BMW 335d
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 19, 2009 11:20 pm)  425 # ft. vs an already potent 300 #ft for the gasser 335 I.
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I had a little time to kill this morning and stopped into BMW of San Diego. Unlike my last visit there in 2007, I was greeted as I came through the front door. I told the gentleman I would like to test the new X5 diesel. He asked to see my Driver's license and told me he would meet me out front. They had 3 in stock and the one we drove was base model. Sitting at idle the diesel sound is barely noticeable. Quieter than my 2005 Passat TDI. It does not take much throttle to get the beast rolling. I knew I was behind 425 ft lbs of torque and did not want to go crazy. I eased onto the roadway and headed for the freeway on ramp. About 1/4 throttle and you know this beauty will go. It is as smooth as my V8 Sequoia and about twice as fast. You get launched into traffic effortlessly. The one thing I did not notice is the transmission shifting up or down. It is much more seamless than the Mercedes 7 speed I tested. I gave it a bit of a kick to get out ahead of a crowd on the freeway when my salesman mentioned I was doing 85 MPH. I slowed back to 70 and realized just how easy it would be to get a ticket in that rocket. This was my first time to drive a BMW of any type. It is very positive steering and precise handling. I would love to take it on a cruise in the back country. The noise level is similar to the Sequoia. The seats are not as plush as the Sequoia. It is also noticeably smaller inside. Mark was very low key and not pushy in the least. A pleasure visiting with. He also gave me a demo of the NAV in another X5 with iDrive. I like the traffic update feature. Not sure it is any better than the Toyota NAV. Which leaves much to be desired. What would it take to buy the new BMW X5 diesel? I would have to get a heck of a deal. I did not even talk to him about trading the Sequoia. If I got serious I would give them a shot. Though I am sure we would be miles apart. The attention I got compared to a couple years ago was an obvious indication of the current market. They have only sold one of the X5 diesels since they arrived. He asked if I was interested in the 335D and I told him no. Don't like cars.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 23, 2009 4:49 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 23, 2009 7:26 pm) |
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Another diesel choice I would consider. Smaller than I like, but it is hard to argue with a CUV that gets 48 MPG combined.  Peugeot 3008 Too bad Jose is the only one that will get the option. We get CUVs that are lucky to top 22 MPG. Pretty pathetic for the Once most powerful Nation on earth. No freedom of choice. Before long it will be only cars designed in Washington DC built by the Nationalized car company.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 24, 2009 5:46 am)  ). On the other hand, I am aware North Americans do not like 4cyl. engines. But the truth is there is so many excellent items to choose among them right now! From BMW and Audi through Peugeot/Citroen/Nissan down to many others. Regarding economy and efficiency, 4cyl. engines (diesels but not only diesels) are an excellent compromise to most town&road passenger traffic. But fighting against tradition-based biases is a difficult thing to do, I understand. Regards, Jose
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Replying to: jlbl (Jan 24, 2009 7:05 am)
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