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#837 of 1494 Re: not trucking on? [ruking1] by ruking1 Jan 19, 2009 (7:47 am)
Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 17, 2009 8:47 pm) But then on the other hand www.Edmunds.com had this press release October 24,2008   link title   ..."Honda Civic Least Expensive Vehicle to Own Over Five Years"...   but lower on the decision tree, coulda would shoulda been a DIESEL (Honda Civic DX-VP 4 dr Sedan ????
#838 of 1494 Re: Now that Wayne Gerdes is FAMOUS.... [ruking1] by larsb Jan 19, 2009 (7:54 am)
Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 18, 2009 7:41 am) I think WG left because the hosts were getting too harsh in allowing dissenting discussions. Replies to this message: ruking1 (Jan 19, 2009 8:48 am) steve_ (Jan 19, 2009 3:08 pm)
#839 of 1494 Re: Now that Wayne Gerdes is FAMOUS.... [larsb] by ruking1 Jan 19, 2009 (8:48 am)
Replying to: larsb (Jan 19, 2009 7:54 am) Well I think that he probably advertantly/inadvertantly strummed a few nerve endings that didn't want to be strummed. The nexus to the diesel thread for my .02cents: IF you apply the same discipline to the diesel engine, the results are far higher/better, than his already stellar 59 mpg with a Honda Accord. I used my easy diesel 59 mpg example. Having said that, the other side of that is TOO much work already !
#840 of 1494 335d is more than economical by bigmclargehuge Jan 19, 2009 (10:08 am)
What would it take me to buy a diesel?   Well, if I were in the market for a new daily-driver, absolutely nothing. I test-drove a 335i automatic and 335d back-back. The 335d was just plain better for what I would use it for.   The torque was available everywhere. Shift action was better than the 335i. And acceleration was just as strong at full-tilt.   Just a more readily-available powerband than any car I've ever driven. It takes less right pedal to get it to move, and it doesn't hunt for gears as much. Would make a phenominal daily driver.   I would definitly consider buying this car because of that more than just the economic factors. Replies to this message: jlbl (Jan 19, 2009 12:10 pm) gagrice (Jan 19, 2009 12:15 pm) jlbl (Jan 19, 2009 12:45 pm)
#841 of 1494 Re: 335d is more than economical [bigmclargehuge] by jlbl Jan 19, 2009 (12:10 pm)
Replying to: bigmclargehuge (Jan 19, 2009 10:08 am) I would definitely consider buying this car because of that more than just the economic factors.   Agreed .   Jose PS: The owner of a 335d coupe for almost a year now. My pleasure. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jan 19, 2009 12:15 pm) jlbl (Jan 19, 2009 12:45 pm)
#842 of 1494 Re: 335d is more than economical [jlbl] by gagrice Jan 19, 2009 (12:15 pm)
Replying to: jlbl (Jan 19, 2009 12:10 pm) The owner of a 335d coupe for almost a year now. My pleasure.   Oh, rub it in our amigo. You probably have a small diesel PU truck also that gets 45 MPG. I guess I could retire over there. What would a nice small wine vineyard in Spain cost me? Replies to this message: jlbl (Jan 19, 2009 12:45 pm)
#843 of 1494 Re: 335d is more than economical [gagrice] by jlbl Jan 19, 2009 (12:45 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 19, 2009 12:15 pm) What would a nice small wine vineyard in Spain cost me?   Indeed, it wouldn't be a bad occupation to take care of a small vineyard after retirement. I really don't know how much the cost would be, but may be the crisis would help.   Regards, Jose
#844 of 1494 Re: Now that Wayne Gerdes is FAMOUS.... [larsb] by steve_ HOST Jan 19, 2009 (3:08 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Jan 19, 2009 7:54 am) I don't remember any of that. I do know that he's busy running his own forum now. He links to the Edmunds Fuel Economy Guide so he must still like us ok.
#845 of 1494 Goes Like Stink, but Doesn't by steve_ HOST Jan 19, 2009 (11:20 pm)
"At this rate, it will take prohibitively long to make up the price premium you pay for the diesel-powered 3 Series in the savings in fuel cost. By virtue of burning less fuel, however, the 335i also emits considerably less CO2 every year — 7.79 tons/year vs. 9.76 tons/year. So the answer for those whose hearts are green is simple: Buy the 335d."   Torques a Lot, Emits a Little     BMW 335d Replies to this message: ruking1 (Jan 20, 2009 12:05 pm)
#846 of 1494 Re: Goes Like Stink, but Doesn't [steve_] by ruking1 Jan 20, 2009 (12:05 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Jan 19, 2009 11:20 pm) Another stark indicator the system is really not interest in lessening foreign oil. Most BMW's are lucky if they get over their EPA rating of app 26 mpg. However if you are a performance afficionado, this BMW 335 D is really a performer. It gets about 38 mph also !! Unless one is wedded to 0-60 mpg performance the torque is absolutely MONSTER 425 # ft. vs an already potent 300 #ft for the gasser 335 I.

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