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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
1492 messages, Last post on Nov 04, 2009 at 7:37 PM
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The answer is NO turbo diesel premium !!!  Now that we are on a roll, D2 cheaper than RUG to PUG. Anything less than that and you can rest assured the "system" is NOT serious about the actual passenger car percentage switch to so called "alternative fuel". |
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"Remember those diesel-engine light-duty pickups we're supposed to be seeing this year? Get ready to hear the words "back burner" in relation to those product plans. One other factor continues to weigh on the resolve of the Detroit automakers to carry out their diesel-pickup plans: the cost of diesel fuel remains stubbornly high in relation to gasoline. Although diesels are expected to return about 25 percent better fuel economy than a comparably-powered gasoline engine, diesel fuel continues to be priced markedly more than 25 percent higher than gasoline at the retail pump. If the fuel-economy advantage of diesel is erased by the cost of the fuel, the automakers believe even fewer customers will opt to lay out the considerable extra cost for the diesel-engine option" Diesel Pickups Dumped By Detroit? (AutoObserver)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 8:41 pm) I am ready to replace my Dodge Dakota (semi-hemi V8) with a Dak powerd with a 4-cylinder detroit diesel. Dodge has manufactured these things in Brazil for a long time... all they have to to is bring them to North America! I want a pickup truck which is diesel... but NOT full-sized and NOT designed for raw pulling abilities. VW used to build the Rabbit-Pickup in Latrobe Pennslyvania. Toyota used to sell small diesel pickups too. I also question the use of the words "comparitivly powered gasoline engine"... just what does this mean? Deisels are not really big on horsePower, they rely on TORQUE to motivate the vehicle. Comparing the power between gasoline and diesel is just plain stupid. My VW Jetta TDI is rated at 90 HorsePower.... but can easilly out-accellerate a gasoline engine with same displacement engine. As they say -- > People buy horsepower... but drive torque.
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Replying to: bpeebles (Jan 17, 2009 7:46 pm) That is because people in this country are not educated to the pleasure of driving a modern diesel vehicle. Once you drive one it is hard to go back to a gas engine. Especially a little 4 banger screaming gas engine. Never again for me. Gas is for the masses...
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 17, 2009 8:32 pm)
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link title He no longer seems to post on www.Edmunds.com !?  I also would like to see him do a hypermiling gig on a diesel (Honda Accord). He of course made it famous for a 59 mpg on a gasser. With NO real hypermileage techniques, it was literally a no brainer to get 59 mpg  75 mph with bursts to 80 mph on a past 3 state and from a foreign country trip (from Vancouver BC, CN), in a 03 Jetta TDI.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 17, 2009 8:47 pm) link title ..."Honda Civic Least Expensive Vehicle to Own Over Five Years"... but lower on the decision tree, coulda would shoulda been a DIESEL (Honda Civic DX-VP 4 dr Sedan ????
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 18, 2009 7:41 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 19, 2009 7:54 am)
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What would it take me to buy a diesel? Well, if I were in the market for a new daily-driver, absolutely nothing. I test-drove a 335i automatic and 335d back-back. The 335d was just plain better for what I would use it for. The torque was available everywhere. Shift action was better than the 335i. And acceleration was just as strong at full-tilt. Just a more readily-available powerband than any car I've ever driven. It takes less right pedal to get it to move, and it doesn't hunt for gears as much. Would make a phenominal daily driver. I would definitly consider buying this car because of that more than just the economic factors.
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