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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 10, 2009 11:07 am) |
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 10, 2009 10:54 am) Good article, that was fun. |
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 10, 2009 10:54 am) Note - the same era 200D does 0-60 in 25 seconds and has 80mph top speed. 28mpg. Funny thig is, if they built a few diesels with this type of acceleration today, they would probably make 100 mpg easy. Too bad they won't do it. |
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 10, 2009 10:54 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jan 10, 2009 3:39 pm) http://www.kenrockwell.com/190d/index.htm 30-35mpg. Acceptable as an alternative to a typical compact car. Anything with a larger engine, though, is going to be not very thrifty. Oh, and they have made a 30-40 second 0-60 time TDI already. The VW 1 liter car. Okay, it gets 210MPG, not 100... heh. |
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It looks like VW will bring a 3.0L TDI Touareg to the USA this Spring. VW is getting the jump on the Domestics and Japanese. Diesel is the only way to go for good mileage in a heavy SUV. The hybrid SUVs are not much good off road and cannot tow much. I say bring em on. Never too many choices. http://www.vw.com/touaregtdi/en/us/ |
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How are these TDI in the winter? I was up north in Wisconsin and didn't see a single Jetta TDI or BMW 335ix for that matter. Are diesels and turbos a bad idea for us people living in the northern states?
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Replying to: investor27 (Jan 12, 2009 9:15 am) |
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Replying to: investor27 (Jan 12, 2009 9:15 am)
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Sure, diesels are practical. But fun? Volkswagen sets out to prove the two ideas are not mutually exclusive with the Concept BlueSport unveiled here today. Equipped with VW's signature TDI clean diesel engine, the midengine roadster concept has an average fuel consumption of 42 mpg, or 50 mpg on the highway. In theory, the roadster can go 710 miles between fill-ups while meeting emissions standards in all 50 states. http://www.autonews.com/article/20090111/ANA02/901119989/1115 (registration link) If this ever makes it to the States, it would be the first fun-to-drive diesel car sold here, even as we await the first fun-to-drive hybrid car, which looks like it will be the Honda CRZ, debuting next year. Of course, the CRZ hybrid will make better mileage than the Civic hybrid sedan it shares parts with, and that model can be had for $22K and ALREADY makes an average fuel consumption of 42 mpg. The CRZ is promised to start under $20K, and will probably match the VW TDI roadster for average and highway fuel economy. I think odds are that the Honda will find more buyers than the VW, as people are getting more used to hybrids all the time while diesels cannot fully shake off their bad rep from the 80s. As hybrids expand, the question remains: will there be enough potential diesel car buyers to make it worth it for automakers to invest in making more available?
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