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Car Buying, Biodiesel, Diesel, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Hatchback, SUV
#7968 of 11729 Re: - [dudleyr]
Feb 07, 2013 (12:28 pm)
Maybe it's geared for good acceleration?
Let's see how the reviews are. If they've priced it, won't be long before we see those.
#7971 of 11729 Re: another reason why we don't get (many) diesels [steve_]
Feb 07, 2013 (1:47 pm)
All you need, though, is for one manufacturer to rebel and do it, and get that competitive advantage. Then the rest would have to join in.
#7973 of 11729 Re: another reason why we don't get (many) diesels [ateixeira]
Feb 07, 2013 (2:20 pm)
All you need, though, is for one manufacturer to rebel and do it, and get that competitive advantage. Then the rest would have to join in."...
To name just one example, VW has been doing the TDI gig for INXS of a decade (actually decades) . Decades later, GM "rebels" with a Cruze TDI ?
#7974 of 11729 Re: - [dudleyr]
Feb 07, 2013 (2:40 pm)
They don't even offer the diesel with a manual? Ridiculous.
Saves me the trouble of even looking, I suppose! Couple that with the FE estimates and the price premium (for both the car and its fuel source) and I'm not sure why anyone would even consider it.
#7975 of 11729 Re: another reason why we don't get (many) diesels [ruking1]
Feb 07, 2013 (3:29 pm)
I meant in the context of pickups....very, very different segment.
Work trucks need torque. They're driven tons of miles and could lower operating costs, be more durable, etc.
I think the Big 3 are afraid. If you sell a light duty pickup diesel they may no longer sell as many HD pickups, and that could eat in to profits ($8 to $10k per truck by some estimates).
Feb 07, 2013 (3:30 pm)
And still no hatch or wagon, looks like sedan only.
Lost me, too.
#7977 of 11729 Re: another reason why we don't get (many) diesels [ateixeira]
Feb 07, 2013 (10:52 pm)
..."I meant in the context of pickups....very, very different segment. "...
I think you should could have said that and made the differentiation up front. Magic mind reading and unicorns are not my thing. I think you have read more than once/ heard me say that a diesel light (light) truck is an absolute no brainer and for many reasons.
To state the obvious, obviously: once it was obvious that you said what you meant, but didn't say before. To state the other obvious thing, most American light trucks have been, are and will remain GASSERS.
I think that applies to diesel passenger vehicles in general. The back drop of course is even as the powers that be press for less RUG/PUG fuel use, they are hurting BIG time from the lack of revenue, they themselves advocate fiercely, albeit indirectly. Keep in mind that RUG/PUG/ D2 prices are at historical highs which punishes the middle class, as an "EVERYMAN" tax. that our current 2nd term Potus has so vociferously claims to defend while he deftly oppresses them with an "everyman" tax.. Indeed the hybrids and plug in electrical will have to go up a minimum of 4 x's greater that the already higher price per mile driven, and acquisition cost, it costs now to not even break even. CA tiered KWH is already $.29 per. While it is more costly per mile driven than RUG/PUG it is not near enough !!! The Volt is essentially a 12 to 15k gasser that in the plug in electric/hybrid forms costs 40,000. The other catch 22 is most sane folks will not buy one until prices and operating costs go ... down. Be careful what you wish for.