What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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#7967 of 9361 - by dudleyr

Feb 07, 2013 (1:14 pm)

The Cruze eco that gets 42 mpg has a manual transmission that is actually geared for good mpg. The automatic only gets 39 on the highway. The diesel only comes in automatic, so it gets a 3 mpg improvement.
 
I agree that it should probably be more than that even.

#7968 of 9361 Re: - [dudleyr] by ateixeira

Feb 07, 2013 (1:28 pm)

Replying to: dudleyr (Feb 07, 2013 1:14 pm)
Maybe it's geared for good acceleration?
 
Let's see how the reviews are. If they've priced it, won't be long before we see those.

#7969 of 9361 Cruze TD 100k mile warranty by ateixeira

Feb 07, 2013 (1:33 pm)

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/07/2014-chevrolet-cruze-td-diesel-chicago-2013/
 
Should reduce the risk for early adopters.

#7970 of 9361 another reason why we don't get (many) diesels by steve_ HOST

Feb 07, 2013 (2:12 pm)

Why Ford doesn't bring diesels to SUV'S.
 
Sort of second hand info, but an interesting post nonetheless.

#7971 of 9361 Re: another reason why we don't get (many) diesels [steve_] by ateixeira

Feb 07, 2013 (2:47 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 07, 2013 2:12 pm)
Interesting theory.
 
All you need, though, is for one manufacturer to rebel and do it, and get that competitive advantage. Then the rest would have to join in.

#7972 of 9361 Re: turbo diesel folks have known this for a while, but [ruking1] by ateixeira

Feb 07, 2013 (2:58 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Feb 06, 2013 1:29 pm)
Follow-up, related to that:
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/02/07/hyundai-los-angeles-times-and-consumer-report- s-in/
 
Interestingly, Mazda, Subaru, and VW are the only 3 brands where CR's result seems to exceed the EPA's.
 
That lines up with what we've seen from fuelly on the Mazda3 and Golf TDI, but it appears to apply to the brands and Subaru as well.

#7973 of 9361 Re: another reason why we don't get (many) diesels [ateixeira] by ruking1

Feb 07, 2013 (3:20 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 07, 2013 2:47 pm)
..."Interesting theory.
  
All you need, though, is for one manufacturer to rebel and do it, and get that competitive advantage. Then the rest would have to join in."...
 
To name just one example, VW has been doing the TDI gig for INXS of a decade (actually decades) . Decades later, GM "rebels" with a Cruze TDI ?

#7974 of 9361 Re: - [dudleyr] by xwesx

Feb 07, 2013 (3:40 pm)

Replying to: dudleyr (Feb 07, 2013 1:14 pm)
They don't even offer the diesel with a manual? Ridiculous.
 
Saves me the trouble of even looking, I suppose! Couple that with the FE estimates and the price premium (for both the car and its fuel source) and I'm not sure why anyone would even consider it.

#7975 of 9361 Re: another reason why we don't get (many) diesels [ruking1] by ateixeira

Feb 07, 2013 (4:29 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Feb 07, 2013 3:20 pm)
I meant in the context of pickups....very, very different segment.
 
Work trucks need torque. They're driven tons of miles and could lower operating costs, be more durable, etc.
 
I think the Big 3 are afraid. If you sell a light duty pickup diesel they may no longer sell as many HD pickups, and that could eat in to profits ($8 to $10k per truck by some estimates).

#7976 of 9361 Re: - [xwesx] by ateixeira

Feb 07, 2013 (4:30 pm)

Replying to: xwesx (Feb 07, 2013 3:40 pm)
And still no hatch or wagon, looks like sedan only.
 
Lost me, too.
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