Ask the Car People.SM


What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

9337 messages,  Last post on May 22, 2013 at 2:26 PM

You are in the Automotive News & Views Forum.

What is this discussion about? Car Buying, Biodiesel, Diesel, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Hatchback, SUV

Messages Page 794 of 934

#7927 of 9337 Re: - was [flightnurse] now VW Golf? [steve_] [gimmestdtranny] [gagrice] [gimmestdtranny] [ateixeira] [gagrice] [ateixeira] by gagrice

Feb 01, 2013 (1:54 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 01, 2013 11:50 am)
Is that compared to the 2.0T engine? That requires premium
 
It is the 2.0L TSI engine. That is all they sell in the UK for the Tiguan gassers. And they just says it requires Unleaded Petrol. It for sure requires Premium here. I don't think VW has developed a Urea system for the small TDI engine. Same for Mercedes and their wonderful 4 cylinder diesel with 369 Ft Lbs of torque, and high 30s combined in a heavy SUV like the ML.

#7928 of 9337 Re: - [steve_] by gagrice

Feb 01, 2013 (2:22 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 01, 2013 1:17 pm)
The hybrid price ($69,850) really seems extreme. $20k more than the gasser.
 
That would be cheap for a Cayenne Hybrid. There are seven available from here to San Francisco. Cheapest is $80k and they go up to $88k.
 
The diesels are selling $66k to $76k.

#7929 of 9337 Re: - [gagrice] by steve_ HOST

Feb 01, 2013 (4:03 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Feb 01, 2013 2:22 pm)
What's wrong with you diesel fans - don't like your cars loaded up with options?
 
Gas popped yet again today, so the differential is only 35 cents here in the boonies.

#7930 of 9337 Re: - [steve_] by ruking1

Feb 01, 2013 (4:55 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 01, 2013 1:17 pm)
..."The hybrid price ($69,850) really seems extreme. $20k more than the gasser."...
 
??????
 
In the context of US inventory of 50 PCH's 2013, that is the "GOOD" news !!!! The fact of the matter, that priced PCH is THE outlier (cheapest IS 69,900 MSRP) of the outlier. The now outer range is 102,105, if cars .com's US inventory is to be believed.
 
2013 PC gassers start 54,595 and go to 149,055 in 1005 units.
 
Of course the on TOPIC comparison with 169 DIESEL 2013 PC's is a range of 62,619 to 86,460. Funny how both the hybrid and gasser option ranges far exceed the perceived "diesel is more expensive" moniker !!??

#7931 of 9337 Golf GTD by steve_ HOST

Feb 04, 2013 (8:15 pm)

"Volkswagen is seriously considering bringing its economical Golf GTD hot hatchback to America next year.
 
Sources at the 2013 Detroit Auto Show confirmed that the diesel-powered GTD would be shown alongside the Golf VII GTI at this year's 2013 Geneva Auto Show in March.
 
"Sales of our diesels have been rising in the U.S. and there's been a wide push internally to include more diesel variants of more models for buyers here," a Volkswagen source said."
 
2014 Volkswagen Golf GTD Likely for the U.S.

#7932 of 9337 Re: Golf GTD [steve_] by flightnurse

Feb 04, 2013 (9:47 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 04, 2013 8:15 pm)
A friend of mine in Scotland just bought a GTD and loves it, she had a GTI but wanted something that got better MPG, so far with 1500 miles she reports she is getting roughly 40% better MPG then her 2010 GTi.. I hope VW does bring over the GTD to the states...

#7933 of 9337 Re: Golf GTD [flightnurse] by ruking1

Feb 05, 2013 (5:40 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Feb 04, 2013 9:47 pm)
I think it promises to be a real shoot out with the MAZDA3 TDI 310 # ft vs VW Golf's 280 # ft for in and around 3k#'s and VW Golfs sub 3k #'s. It will be interesting to hear first adopter takes (US markets) for both. It will take a fair time to get the results at 100k + miles, but I am very interested in how Mazda posts those results.
 
In reading in passing, the Japanese oems almost had their lunches handed to them in the European diesel markets. I am thinking Mazda wants to challenge that dominance here in the (much smaller and lower percentage) US diesel markets. I wish them every success. For as bad a reputation for quality that VW has in the US markets, Mazda will have to dial up their own quality to even come close. They certainly have a better reliability reputation, even as VW is working hard to close THAT gap.

#7934 of 9337 Re: Golf GTD [ruking1] by gagrice

Feb 05, 2013 (6:49 am)

Replying to: ruking1 (Feb 05, 2013 5:40 am)
Mazda needs to do something different. They are about the only automaker showing a decrease in sales. I think a few diesels would help them survive. For me they are not an attractive line of vehicles.
 
Feb 1, 2013
 
IRVINE, Calif., Feb. 1, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) today reported January U.S. sales of 21,319 vehicles, representing a decrease of 11.2 percent versus last year.

#7935 of 9337 Re: Golf GTD [gagrice] by ateixeira

Feb 05, 2013 (8:11 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Feb 05, 2013 6:49 am)
Their volume product is old and will be replaced soon (Mazda3). The CX5 is doing well and just got a badly needed bigger engine. The brand new 6 is just launching, too.
 
They will never do the volumes Honda and Toyota do, so I think going after a diesel niche makes total sense for them.
 
Horrible month, though, considering just about everybody else was way up.

#7936 of 9337 Re: Golf GTD [ateixeira] by gagrice

Feb 05, 2013 (8:13 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 05, 2013 8:11 am)
It could be supply issues. They seem popular down here. The two people I know that have the 3s like them a lot.

Messages Page 794 of 934

To POST a message, please Sign In.

Advertisement

Browse by Category

Browse by Vehicle
   View All Vehicles

Browse by Board
Browse by Topic
View All Topics

Edmunds Community

Advertisement