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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
1494 messages, Last post on Nov 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM
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Replying to: bobny57 (Jan 06, 2009 6:51 pm) No it is the Dirty Environmentalist in the government on the payroll of the oil companies.  Gas is the byproduct in the refining process they want to get rid of. Diesel will be in short supply until they add more refining capacity. With a glut of gas there is no real urgency to sell more diesel.
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 05, 2009 9:53 pm) **** No, the issue was smoothness and a nice ride. If the engine has to rev to get its power, then that means it needs many gears(problem prone and expensive to fix mega-speed automatic) or has to rev to where most Americans think it's noisy. A modern turbo-diesel is quiet, refined, shifts less, and generally is better in traffic and normal daily driving. They have done great things with the technology in Europe and it's nothing like what Americans remember. Though, to be honest, I love the sound of an old 4 cylinder 1970s Mercedes diesel... Like a small tractor and just as anti-yuppie at the same time...
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 06, 2009 9:07 pm) 
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 06, 2009 9:53 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 07, 2009 7:54 am) On the VW (03 5 speed manual anyway) as most folks probably do not know, the system is a so called "drive by wire" system. One spin off: a coasting or no fuel draw situation, does NOT have the engine compression of older diesels. It does result in better overall mpg due to no fuel draw conditions (on longer grade descents). I would imagine the same is true for automatics (to a lesser degree) |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 05, 2009 9:53 pm) |
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Replying to: pod (Jan 06, 2009 4:46 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 07, 2009 9:08 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 06, 2009 8:46 pm) Thanks for your response. Here's some follow up questions: Doesn't diesel fuel come first in the refining process. Doesn't it take another step in the refining process to obtain our gasoline? If so, why is diesel more expensive? If 80% of Europe's passenger cars are diesels doesn't that indicate that diesel is pretty efficient? Those folks pay huge taxes on their fuel so they are hyper sensitive to price. Is there still an environmental downside to diesel that I'm missing? Bob
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Replying to: bobny57 (Jan 07, 2009 12:19 pm) And even though diesel cars have not taken off here, we still have plenty of pickups, trucks and buses using it. Not only that, but diesel cars have taken off and taken over in Europe and Asia. Thus there are other buyers clammering for the insufficient diesel fuel that is made in this country (relatively speaking). On top of that, the fuel tax structure in this country (unlike other countries where diesel has a clear tax advantage over gasoline) is biased toward gasoline.
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