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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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bring on by nippononly
Jan 06, 2009 (1:52 pm)
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the Clubman diesel!!!!
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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [Mr_Shiftright] by cdnpinhead
Jan 06, 2009 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:59 am)

I'll never forget the SF Chronicle reporter who went to a "Save the Redwoods" party in Marin, that took place on....you guessed it... a redwood deck!
 
Priceless!
 
Sure sounds like the same crowd that loves the Pious so much.
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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [cdnpinhead] by larsb
Jan 06, 2009 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jan 06, 2009 2:07 pm)

Well, they meant all the OTHER redwoods, the ones they have not already cut down.
 
Obviously.
 
LOL
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Ford Mondeo Diesel and BMW X5 by dturr
Jan 06, 2009 (3:32 pm)
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I have owned both in the UK, don't forget the imperial gallon means more fuel than the US gallon. The diesel was less expensive than in the US but my Ford would regularly get 45-50mpg on a run and the X5 nearly 30mpg. I would not hesitate to buy either car again.
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update on Northeastern Diesel prices. by pod
Jan 06, 2009 (4:46 pm)
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Last week at Hess in RI. Regular unleaded gas=$1.59/gal; diesel=$2.69/gal
 
The gap seems to remain constant. Earlier in the year when gas was 3.85 or so diesel was 4.99. Now, however the cost ratio is almost 2:1 and in the simplest oversimplification a diesel would have to get twice the mileage to break even. I know this isn't exact but it does reduce the economic advantage of diesel for the time being.
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I'm thinking ! by mrsixpack
Jan 06, 2009 (6:41 pm)
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I'm thinking that one main reason people in the USA do not buy Diesels is because we keep getting told we dont buy diesels in the USA !
 
I'm thinking the reason the oil companies sell diesel at a higher cost is that they can, we dont have a system of checks to make a private company charge what they should so they charge all they can with no worries !
 
I'm thinking that car makers will fight making longer lasting diesel vehicles as long as they can, why make a vehicle that can last 200,000 miles when you can make one that will go 100,000 and sell two of them ?
 
I'm thinking there is Zillions of dollars being tossed around on so called man made global warming, and not even a dollar spent to tell the people that this earth is a living ever changing world ! Ya cant charge people more money to tell them lifes a bytch but ya can charge them more money by telling them its all their fault !
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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [Mr_Shiftright] by bobny57
Jan 06, 2009 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 8:55 am)

Why does diesel cost so much more than even premium gas? It is my understanding that requires less refining. Refining is a costly process. Are we talking conspiracy here? Is it the environmentalists trying to keep this "dirty" fuel out of our hands?
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Re: mistaken again [bpeebles] by steve_ HOST
Jan 06, 2009 (8:08 pm)
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Edmunds calculates maintenance in the True Cost to Own.
 
Just comparing some '06 Jetta's against each other, I don't see any advantage.
 
TDI 4dr Sedan w/Manual
Average Cost per Mile* $0.50
link
 
2.0T 4dr Sedan w/Manual
Average Cost per Mile* $0.50
link
 
2.5 4dr Sedan w/Manual
Average Cost per Mile* $0.45
link
 
* This is a 5-year estimate (based on 15,000 miles per year). The automatic styles seem to be a penny or so cheaper to own and operate.
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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [bobny57] by gagrice
Jan 06, 2009 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: bobny57 (Jan 06, 2009 6:51 pm)

Is it the environmentalists trying to keep this "dirty" fuel out of our hands?
 
No it is the Dirty Environmentalist in the government on the payroll of the oil companies.
Gas is the byproduct in the refining process they want to get rid of. Diesel will be in short supply until they add more refining capacity. With a glut of gas there is no real urgency to sell more diesel.

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