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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
1503 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 06, 2009 10:29 am) What I was saying is that no chip in the world could allow my car to make me go faster 0-60 all day long and yet record a higher average gas mileage at the end of a month. The chip is merely manipulating what is possible in the engine. The chip is not "creating" more power out of thin air, and in giving better fuel mileage, is working outside of manufacturer's specs for reliability or drivability. I find the notion that a chip is "outsmarting" factory engineers to be unfounded. The chip maker and the factory engineer have different goals and the chipped car is not a "better" car necessarily. It just changes the compromises is all. You want to run leaner mixtures, or higher turbo boost, or longer shift points...okay fine, as long as you accept the compromises. Besides, often these chips require other mods which are not unsubstantial. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 06, 2009 10:39 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 06, 2009 11:03 am) "Chipping a car is an easy way to make more horsepower and get better fuel mileage reliably. " "Extracts Every Energy Possible From Fuel Molecules, Increases Miles-Per-Gallon At Part Throttle And Horsepower At Wide-Open Throttle"
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 06, 2009 11:03 am) Anyway--- Thanks larsb! I'm going to run off and check out the diesel scene for 2009-2010! Visiting Host |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 06, 2009 11:11 am) "Chipping a car is an easy way to make more horsepower and get better fuel mileage reliably. " Less misleading (because you can do this, based on how you drive), but still an ad. If you want to chip, do the research. And now I am beating a dead horse. Sorry. |
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the Clubman diesel!!!! 
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:59 am) Priceless! Sure sounds like the same crowd that loves the Pious so much.
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jan 06, 2009 2:07 pm) Obviously. LOL 
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| I have owned both in the UK, don't forget the imperial gallon means more fuel than the US gallon. The diesel was less expensive than in the US but my Ford would regularly get 45-50mpg on a run and the X5 nearly 30mpg. I would not hesitate to buy either car again. | |
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Last week at Hess in RI. Regular unleaded gas=$1.59/gal; diesel=$2.69/gal The gap seems to remain constant. Earlier in the year when gas was 3.85 or so diesel was 4.99. Now, however the cost ratio is almost 2:1 and in the simplest oversimplification a diesel would have to get twice the mileage to break even. I know this isn't exact but it does reduce the economic advantage of diesel for the time being.
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