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#7671 of 9706 Re: Diesel price fixing in the the Washington,D.C. area [ruking1]
Jan 17, 2013 (9:43 am)
You would have spent $70,000 on ignition coils with the 1.8T so your TCO was probably about 1/3rd vs picking that engine. LOL
They're brining back an engine of that size, in the Passat. I think that's a mistake. It had such a bad reputation that people will wonder if the new one is related.
#7672 of 9706 Re: Diesel price fixing in the the Washington,D.C. area [ateixeira]
Jan 17, 2013 (10:07 am)
Total spin !!
Fuelly.com for gasser 18/19 /diesel 25 mpg 2011/2012 Touaregs 15,000 miles per year. Lower fuel consumption diesel, Higher fuel consumption with gasser. No spin here.
Does it matter to you? Probably not. Does it matter to me? Probably not.
#7673 of 9706 Re: Diesel price fixing in the the Washington,D.C. area [ruking1]
Jan 17, 2013 (10:09 am)
Lower consumption (big Duh) but the real question is when's the break even point?
That would be a lot more useful that tossing out percentages.
#7674 of 9706 Re: Diesel price fixing in the the Washington,D.C. area [ateixeira]
Jan 17, 2013 (10:28 am)
Unicorns again? I did not put out a % to the post you are responding, or is the permanent saddle burl calling?
YOU need to answer it for YOU. This is what you have been avoiding. This of course is your problem and not mine. The DUH is ALL YOURS. What you do with your money in regards to vehicle choices is YOUR business.
Indeed my opinions have been anathema to you, and for a long time, so... ignore them. I think you will be better off if you do.
Diesels are NOT for everybody. I think you are a prime candidate to stay with gassers. Defacto you prove me correct: you own NO diesel and by your own confirmation.
#7675 of 9706 Who really considers TCO when buying???
Jan 17, 2013 (10:21 am)
He liked the MDX enough to buy it, and it's hardly a moped.
I don't think he will do that again... For me I looked at them. The one I drove was NOT comfortable and had a lot less space than my Sequoia and slightly better mileage using Premium gas. Plus the one I looked at was $10k over what I paid for the Sequoia. After 5 years the MDX is worth less according to Edmunds than my Sequoia. And gas was a very small part of the equation. Making the enjoyment of ownership a much higher priority than TCO.
#7676 of 9706 Re: Diesel price fixing in the the Washington,D.C. area [ruking1]
Jan 17, 2013 (10:52 am)
You've never owned a hybrid yet you criticize them all the time.
#7677 of 9706 Re: Who really considers TCO when buying??? [gagrice]
Jan 17, 2013 (11:00 am)
The Acura MDX was the baseline "competitor", which I considered. The additional level of option complexity was of course the diesel option. For me the first decision anyway was diesel. There was no enthusiasm for getting a new SUV/CUV with only slightly better mpg than 16 to 19 year old TLC's 15/16 mpg.
I just ran the used car comparisons (basic) with 20k miles and despite getting the VW T cheaper, it is worth SLIGHTLY more than the Acura MDX on 2/3 prices PP/DR. It is said to be (-308) TI. So with lower insurance costs, registration and taxation and 242 gals LESS fuel consumption 3.73 PUG or $902. The math might be anathema to some folks. TCO or no TCO. Me? It is just icing on the cake to know there are $ savings.
The real kicker here (CA trans regulations winter mtn travel) is to not have to put on/off chains and or snow tires. If I could get a diesel CAR that chains are not required, I would have gotten IT. Indeed I would just run one of the two diesels I have NOW.
#7678 of 9706 Re: Who really considers TCO when buying??? [gagrice]
Jan 17, 2013 (10:53 am)
gas was a very small part of the equation
That's what I've been saying. I feel validated now.
#7680 of 9706 Re: Who really considers TCO when buying??? [ateixeira]
Jan 17, 2013 (11:15 am)
Indeed. It is one reason why running 17/19 year old TLC's makes ALL the sense (TS in Gagrice's case) . Each TLC STILL easily passes smog. Both of mine are IDENTICAL to NEW, even though the smog ONLY test stations have much more accurate and exacting test equipment. Indeed getting a smog for either or both is really a travesty. In any case, I hope to run each to least the 30 year mark. Each engine has more than 200,000 miles.
SUV's would have to do a minimum of 45 mpg for it to make ANY economic sense. SUV's CUV'a are not even close yet.