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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [plekto] by steve_ HOST
Jan 05, 2009 (9:53 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 05, 2009 9:35 pm)

I think this is a common red herring but it's not a "problem" for an engine designed to run at higher rpms to do so. It may be a problem for you as a driver but it's not a design issue. Otherwise Honda would have folded decades ago.
 
It would be nice to see more emphasis placed on torque instead of 0 to 60 in the car reviews.
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Re: with gas [nippononly] by ruking1
Jan 05, 2009 (10:11 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 05, 2009 7:32 pm)

iI you are all excited about YOUR Echo, I would imagine you'd be beside yourself in a TDI ECHO !!! You would not have to make an apples to oranges comparison with a Jetta.
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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Jan 05, 2009 (10:29 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 7:58 pm)

Actually this angle interests me. Most of it will be projection for app 1 year to 3 years. It will be interesting to see if the BMW 335 D will be worth more than the BMW 335 I.
 
The Jetta TDI has exceeded any of my projections and expectations. I know that Jetta's (gassers) and for sure BMW gassers drop like boulders in the depreciation department. The TDI for much of its early life could sell for more than I paid. The so called premium the time if I remember correctly was app 246. However in the Jetta's case (according to Edmunds.com)the TDI 6 years old is worth a min of 3,300 more than a like model/mileage/condition 1.8T.
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Re: with gas [ruking1] by nippononly
Jan 05, 2009 (10:33 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 10:11 pm)

Exactly! Why won't they do it? The proposed Clubman diesel, which actually DOES come in a diesel trim across the pond, is the closest thing I have heard yet.
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Re: with gas [nippononly] by ruking1
Jan 05, 2009 (10:42 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 05, 2009 10:33 pm)

This would be easy for you to do an apples to apples comparison. So for example given the same RATIOs on like models : VW jetta is 29 mpg (gasser)is to (49 mpg D2), as your Echo (gasser) 41.5 mpg is to X mpg for a turbo diesel Echo.
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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [Mr_Shiftright] by alltorque
Jan 06, 2009 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 7:58 pm)

A diesel BMW sedan is an odd duck, to say the least.
 
Over here, in Europe, the diesel versions of BMW saloons, (sedans), are the preferred options. real-world performance is much the same; particularly mid-range acceleration, (and they'll more than keep up with any traffic flows), fuel economy is better, the drive is less frenetic, (higher torque will pull longer gear ratios for fewer changes), and resale values hold up far better, (even outweighing the slightly higher new premium). The M3 and M5 gassers are, of course, still purchased for their outright performance and "showoffability". (as are the Audi RS4's and RS6's).
 
Situation is much the same with other marques also, where there are comparable gasser and diesel versions available. Indeed, the factors given above put me into the driving seat of a Volvo S60 D5 rather than its T5 stable mate. Volvo has obviously now recognised this and the current S60 is only available with 2.0T/178bhp/177lbft gasser or 2.4D/163bhp/251lbft or D5/185bhp/295lbft diesels. The biggest sellers in the Volvo XC90, Audi Q7 and even the BMW 6-series and Audi A6's and A8's are the diesel variants, (from my observations, at least). There again, Europe has had diesels for a long time, together with ULSD and high fuel prices, (i.e. tax loading).
 
In the real world a diesel saloon is far from being an odd duck, whatever the marque...................but if you can't try 'em & buy 'em they must seem like an odd concept.
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Small crack in Block by tbattaglia
Jan 06, 2009 (5:08 am)
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I have a 3.2 liter aluminum V-6 Isuzu engine.After overheating the engine due to a freeze plug blowing out, I had to rebuild the engine. Since then, a small crack either in the heads, or the block has resulted in exhaust gas being forced into the cooling system. There is a problem with the heat burning the new head gasket between two of the cylinders, resulting in exhaust gas being forced into the cooling system.
I have been recommended a product called "Heal a Seal" which claims to be able to seal such a crack permanently. Has anyone ever heard of, or used this product?
It would be very costly to rebuild the engine or replace the engine again.
Please advise,
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Re: maybe [Mr_Shiftright] by gregg_vw
Jan 06, 2009 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 1:44 pm)

I know you mean well, but sometimes your responses are shot from the hip without any research at all. Of course it seems to make sense that if you get more power, you lose mpg. However, a properly chipped TDI (for example RocketChip) will give you better mileage when driving the same way as you did pre-chip. As long as you are not always dipping into that extra oomph, the engine post-chip is working a bit more efficiently to do the same thing. All my TDI acquaintances who have chipped report even better mileage on long trips. BTW, have already upgraded my clutch.
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in the latest issue by nippononly
Jan 06, 2009 (7:43 am)
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C&D has a comparo of 4 hybrid midsize sedans, including the new Fusion which did outstandingly. In it they have a half-page comparison between hybrid and diesel, and their conclusion is that at the time they wrote the article, hybrid was the clear winner because the price of diesel was (and still is today) so much higher than regular unleaded.
 
While people are writing articles like that, diesel passenger cars will have a hard time getting off the ground I think.
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Re: maybe [gregg_vw] by ruking1
Jan 06, 2009 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 06, 2009 6:09 am)

..."All my TDI acquaintances who have chipped report even better mileage on long trips. BTW, have already upgraded my clutch. "...
 
If it were me, I'd do the injectors upgrade first, then the chip. I believe the Rocket Chip guy that does the traveling local GTG's, and the "custom" tuning is really the ticket Charlie (Kerma)!! also does the circuit and I have met both of them at a few GTG's. If not, both offer quick turn Fed Ex type services, so your car is down the minimum amount of time.

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