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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:49 am) A close relative got the above in a gasser !!! According to him they didnt come off MSRP and IT was the last one they had (Edmunds.com indicates 20,200 MSRP is for a non turbo CLUBman) . A TDI would be HOT !!
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 10:03 am) |
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if diesels were advertised to make the kind of mileage ruking's does, there would be more interest? They sold a heck of a lot of Civics this year just based on mileage, and folks are aware now that gas prices are volatile and can hit them where it hurts. What is your car, ruking? Is it the previous model Jetta/Beetle/Passat/Golf with the 90 hp diesel? Oh, and count me in for a diesel Clubman under $22 grand. I would go out today and get one of those if it were available.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 05, 2009 12:38 pm) Ditto that remark. I was tempted to buy even the gas version earlier this year. At $22K for the diesel ClubMan, it's a TOTAL no-brainer. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 05, 2009 12:38 pm) But then again... there is MORE POWER !!! AW AW AW !!! I just got done with app an hour in the rain with a 2009 BMW 335 D at the local BMW dealer!! MAN !!! 425 foot #'s of torque under foot is really something to behold. Before we started it had 14 miles on it.  It was this dealers first and only one so far. The sales man did a computer reading for a 33.5 mpg. I asked him what a gasser BMW 335 I gets and he just mentioned in passing 19/20!?
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 12:59 pm) |
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 05, 2009 1:27 pm) |
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 05, 2009 1:27 pm)  75 mph, if I did not do it over two fill ups on a 965 miles leg of a return trip. I really have to stress that all I was trying to do was keep the highest possible speed to avoid a customer service stop by 3 state, 5 car highway patrol wolf packs, and turn off the radar detector; as it was very annoying. I was NOT trying to maximize fuel economy.   BUT I'll take both to the bank as it were, no tickets and good fuel mileage. As for the chip and/or injectors upgrades, they do/can have a Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde characters to them. IF you upgrade, the key to continued good mileage is to resist the temptation to get on it, and just let it ride episodically. The other issue is both these upgrades have the capability of emphasizing (now) weak links, aka V6 clutch upgrade. 
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 1:44 pm) |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:49 am) You need to IGNORE the cost per gallon... it is nearly irrelivant. I have a spreadsheet tracking every drop of fuel run thru my 2003 TDI. The overall fuel cost per mile is $0.05 Again, this is OVERALL cost from day1 of ownership over 100,000 miles.... not just a spike or best. (The best is $0.03) There is not another vehicle sold in North America that can come close to that. Your example of a suberu at $2/gallon is still over $0.10 per mile which is DOUBLE the cost of what my diesel gets. I get over 55MPG on a highway trip in 85 degree weather with 4 passengers and the AC blasting. (and trunk full of luggage) This is over 750 miles per tank of fuel. Are you going to tell me that opposing 4 gasoline engine in your suberu can do that? Also, a diesel engine is designed to run over 300,000 miles. A suberu will have troubles getting 1/2 of that. Additionaly, a gasoline engine has more maintainace costs than diesel. For example, a diesel has no sparkplugs nor ignition system to mess with. Finally, a diesel engine recoups most of the initial cost at resale time. asically, most of your arguments are based on misunderstanding of the true costs involved. The good news is that suberu makes a diesel automobile. I would like to have a 4-wheel-drive diesel car for Vermont winters
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