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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

1492 messages,  Last post on Nov 04, 2009 at 7:37 PM

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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Jan 05, 2009 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:49 am)

Probably why it appeals to a "Marin County" type?
 
I have 112,000 miles on one; enough to know I want another turbo diesel? I also realize for the overwhelming majority of folks, a diesel will be a "leap".
 
Now I have run up 250,000 miles each on 2 gassers so naturally, I have a slightly higher expectation on the diesel. It continues to amaze me that this thing can cruise at 85/90 mph, climb the grapevine hill and fuel in Santa Monica and give 50 mpg !! So I slow to 75 mph and get 59 mpg!!??? Go figure !
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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 05, 2009 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 9:52 am)

I used to live in Sausalito, and I couldn't even find diesel fuel nearby. I had to drive to Corte Madera. I asked the local Shell station if they'd install some and they laughed at me. "We aren't a truck stop" was the answer.
 
But yeah, the old "buy a Volvo, save the world, and install an $80,000 slate shower in the meantime" crowd.
 
I'll never forget the SF Chronicle reporter who went to a "Save the Redwoods" party in Marin, that took place on....you guessed it... a redwood deck!
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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [Mr_Shiftright] by ruking1
Jan 05, 2009 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:49 am)

"if I could purchase a turbo diesel MINI Clubman under $20K out the door"
 
A close relative got the above in a gasser !!! According to him they didnt come off MSRP and IT was the last one they had (Edmunds.com indicates 20,200 MSRP is for a non turbo CLUBman) . A TDI would be HOT !!
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Re: Apropos of nothing in particular [ruking1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 05, 2009 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 10:03 am)

Really? That's a GREAT price. I need to check that out.
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maybe by nippononly
Jan 05, 2009 (12:38 pm)
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if diesels were advertised to make the kind of mileage ruking's does, there would be more interest? They sold a heck of a lot of Civics this year just based on mileage, and folks are aware now that gas prices are volatile and can hit them where it hurts.
 
What is your car, ruking? Is it the previous model Jetta/Beetle/Passat/Golf with the 90 hp diesel?
 
Oh, and count me in for a diesel Clubman under $22 grand. I would go out today and get one of those if it were available.
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Re: maybe [nippononly] by larsb
Jan 05, 2009 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 05, 2009 12:38 pm)

nippononly says, "Oh, and count me in for a diesel Clubman under $22 grand. I would go out today and get one of those if it were available. "
 
Ditto that remark. I was tempted to buy even the gas version earlier this year.
 
At $22K for the diesel ClubMan, it's a TOTAL no-brainer.
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Re: maybe [nippononly] by ruking1
Jan 05, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 05, 2009 12:38 pm)

Yes, 2003 Jetta TDI.
 
But then again... there is MORE POWER !!! AW AW AW !!!
 
I just got done with app an hour in the rain with a 2009 BMW 335 D at the local BMW dealer!! MAN !!! 425 foot #'s of torque under foot is really something to behold. Before we started it had 14 miles on it. It was this dealers first and only one so far.
 
The sales man did a computer reading for a 33.5 mpg. I asked him what a gasser BMW 335 I gets and he just mentioned in passing 19/20!?
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Re: maybe [ruking1] by gregg_vw
Jan 05, 2009 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 12:59 pm)

My 2003 TDI as I have pointed out before consistently gets 50+ mpg overall in its seventh winter with me. Diesel sells for $2.18 around where I live (I know it can go much higher elsewhere), so I am pleased as punch with my fuel costs. My plan is to get it chipped in the spring, which should give it even better mileage as well as more power.
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Re: maybe [gregg_vw] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 05, 2009 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 05, 2009 1:27 pm)

You can't get both mileage and power out of a chip, though. You get one or the other. Is someone actually advertising such a claim or is this just your hope for it?
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Re: maybe [gregg_vw] by ruking1
Jan 05, 2009 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 05, 2009 1:27 pm)

I am glad you posted. At times I truly believe reported D2 mpg is NOT believed by the majority of gasser readers who actually are open minded about D2 products. Indeed I would have dismissed my own 59 mpg 75 mph, if I did not do it over two fill ups on a 965 miles leg of a return trip. I really have to stress that all I was trying to do was keep the highest possible speed to avoid a customer service stop by 3 state, 5 car highway patrol wolf packs, and turn off the radar detector; as it was very annoying. I was NOT trying to maximize fuel economy. BUT I'll take both to the bank as it were, no tickets and good fuel mileage.
 
As for the chip and/or injectors upgrades, they do/can have a Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde characters to them. IF you upgrade, the key to continued good mileage is to resist the temptation to get on it, and just let it ride episodically. The other issue is both these upgrades have the capability of emphasizing (now) weak links, aka V6 clutch upgrade.

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