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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 9:08 am) Ironically you are right in that putting diesels into luxury sedans and SUVs is putting them into the hands of people who don't need to conserve fuel. $20-$30 bucks extra a week for gas means nothing. And the people who really could use a diesel's economy in order to meet the family budget either cannot afford a new diesel (because "new" is the only way most of them will ever see one) or don't wish to suffer the image issue regardless of their financial station. This is all a lot trickier than it appears on the surface, IMO.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:28 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 9:32 am)  Perhaps we should ask the question: Who is, in 2009, a sure-fire diesel car buyer in America anyway? What does he/she look like demographically? Can I picture him/her walking into a showroom? I tried this thought exercise and it's all very hazy. 
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:39 am)  I am led to believe the diesels models cycle through the system far faster than a like gasser model.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 9:43 am) In other words, someone who has done a lot of thinking to justify buying one. Actually I'd be a possible buyer, if I could purchase a turbo diesel MINI Clubman under $20K out the door. I'd probably buy that tomorrow. But I won't be buying that tomorrow because there isn't one in America, and if there was, it would cost $30,000. I'm not spending $30K to save $600 a year in gas over my Subaru. (at $2 a gallon). Now if gas were $10 a gallon, I'd think about it because that's $3,000 bucks a year which is just about what car payments would be if I put a hefty down on a $30K car.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:49 am)  I have 112,000 miles on one; enough to know I want another turbo diesel?  I also realize for the overwhelming majority of folks, a diesel will be a "leap". Now I have run up 250,000 miles each on 2 gassers so naturally, I have a slightly higher expectation on the diesel. It continues to amaze me that this thing can cruise at 85/90 mph, climb the grapevine hill and fuel in Santa Monica and give 50 mpg !! So I slow to 75 mph and get 59 mpg!!??? Go figure !
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 9:52 am) But yeah, the old "buy a Volvo, save the world, and install an $80,000 slate shower in the meantime" crowd. I'll never forget the SF Chronicle reporter who went to a "Save the Redwoods" party in Marin, that took place on....you guessed it... a redwood deck!
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:49 am) A close relative got the above in a gasser !!! According to him they didnt come off MSRP and IT was the last one they had (Edmunds.com indicates 20,200 MSRP is for a non turbo CLUBman) . A TDI would be HOT !!
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 10:03 am) |
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if diesels were advertised to make the kind of mileage ruking's does, there would be more interest? They sold a heck of a lot of Civics this year just based on mileage, and folks are aware now that gas prices are volatile and can hit them where it hurts. What is your car, ruking? Is it the previous model Jetta/Beetle/Passat/Golf with the 90 hp diesel? Oh, and count me in for a diesel Clubman under $22 grand. I would go out today and get one of those if it were available.
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