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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 8:55 am)  invoice !!!! Secondly, your clarifications/explanations, when you point to the objective examples makes sense, or has come to the fore. To the extent that it represents a "majority" opinion indicates again the LACK of seriousness about the foreign oil dependency issue. So if they were "serious" they would for example, make diesel .60 cents CHEAPER than RUG. Hopefully the reasoning would be obvious. The reasoning/s to the logistics system/s is SO obvious and is actually part of the reasoning to make it .60 cents MORE !!!!  As an aside, as you probably know, the American public is already charged an extra .50 cents to 1 per gal on RUG to PUG (tax credits, depreciation, special dispensations, etc.) to EXPORT US made D2 for the world wide markets !!!???? YUP you can tell we are serious  about cutting foreign oil importation. The operative term for another example given diesels 20-40% fuel use efficiency over RUG to PUG might be: Why use less, when you can use more, and talk about using less. Its the Hollywood, LA LA land way !!!
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 9:08 am) Ironically you are right in that putting diesels into luxury sedans and SUVs is putting them into the hands of people who don't need to conserve fuel. $20-$30 bucks extra a week for gas means nothing. And the people who really could use a diesel's economy in order to meet the family budget either cannot afford a new diesel (because "new" is the only way most of them will ever see one) or don't wish to suffer the image issue regardless of their financial station. This is all a lot trickier than it appears on the surface, IMO.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:28 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 9:32 am)  Perhaps we should ask the question: Who is, in 2009, a sure-fire diesel car buyer in America anyway? What does he/she look like demographically? Can I picture him/her walking into a showroom? I tried this thought exercise and it's all very hazy.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:39 am)  I am led to believe the diesels models cycle through the system far faster than a like gasser model.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 9:43 am) In other words, someone who has done a lot of thinking to justify buying one. Actually I'd be a possible buyer, if I could purchase a turbo diesel MINI Clubman under $20K out the door. I'd probably buy that tomorrow. But I won't be buying that tomorrow because there isn't one in America, and if there was, it would cost $30,000. I'm not spending $30K to save $600 a year in gas over my Subaru. (at $2 a gallon). Now if gas were $10 a gallon, I'd think about it because that's $3,000 bucks a year which is just about what car payments would be if I put a hefty down on a $30K car.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:49 am)  I have 112,000 miles on one; enough to know I want another turbo diesel?  I also realize for the overwhelming majority of folks, a diesel will be a "leap". Now I have run up 250,000 miles each on 2 gassers so naturally, I have a slightly higher expectation on the diesel. It continues to amaze me that this thing can cruise at 85/90 mph, climb the grapevine hill and fuel in Santa Monica and give 50 mpg !! So I slow to 75 mph and get 59 mpg!!??? Go figure !
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 05, 2009 9:52 am) But yeah, the old "buy a Volvo, save the world, and install an $80,000 slate shower in the meantime" crowd. I'll never forget the SF Chronicle reporter who went to a "Save the Redwoods" party in Marin, that took place on....you guessed it... a redwood deck!
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 05, 2009 9:49 am) A close relative got the above in a gasser !!! According to him they didnt come off MSRP and IT was the last one they had (Edmunds.com indicates 20,200 MSRP is for a non turbo CLUBman) . A TDI would be HOT !!
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