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#7176 of 9383 Long Story Short
Nov 16, 2012 (1:06 pm)
In worse than normal commute traffic ( 45 miles/90 R/T, had to go to SFO during the BIGGEST travel DAY of THE YEAR) the mpg (rose to) 31.5 mpg !
Seems the 8 speed transmission (mated to the diesel and zero fuel draw on no throttle and deceleration) , once "decoded" actually aids better mpg !! ??? I think this thing is wearing real well on us !
#7177 of 9383 Re: Long Story Short [ruking1]
Nov 16, 2012 (1:17 pm)
Is it hard to go back to driving the Jetta after the Touareg. I know I hate driving my wife's LS400. Rather be in my PU or the Sequoia.
#7178 of 9383 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [gagrice]
Nov 16, 2012 (1:18 pm)
Chevy Cruze is alive and well here in UK, and Europe. 2.0 diesel, MT or AT. Saloon, (Sedan), Estate, (Station Wagon), or Hatchback. Have a friend with a Saloon version and he loves it. GM, (Vauxhall/Opel), have a big variety of diesels this side of the pond and they form a large % of sales. UK prices may well make your eyes water though..............and ULSD is circa $8.24 per US Gallon equiv, at to-days ex-rate. Happy motoring !
Link to Cruze below.
Cruze'n The UK
#7179 of 9383 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [alltorque]
Nov 16, 2012 (1:53 pm)
A decked out Cruze wagon with the big diesel and Auto would sell for about $33k USD. Heck of a lot less than a Volt. If you want less power and higher MPG it would be under $30k. They are supposed to be here someday????
#7180 of 9383 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [ruking1]
Nov 16, 2012 (2:06 pm)
why Mazda had to (literally and figuratively) reinvent their line of engines and give it that the skyactiv moniker which is nonsensical even in explanations.
If we look past the marketing those cars actually do produce very good real-world economy without the cost of diesel and without the complexity of hybrids.
#7181 of 9383 Re: Long Story Short [gagrice]
Nov 16, 2012 (2:08 pm)
Yes the 8 speed A/T really trumps the 6 speed DSG AND the 5/6 speed M/T , ALL three being stellar products. The bottom line is WAY less brake use and the ability to pay far LESS attention !! The only secret here is IF you don't tailgate, the 8 speed transmission is worth its "weight". When you do mess up or tail gate, it is a simple thing to use the "sequential shifter." The deceleration actually engages the ZERO fuel draw !! ??
#7182 of 9383 C-Max real world - so far
Nov 16, 2012 (2:14 pm)
I'm following this car because if my van were totalled today it would make it on my short list, but...
195 Prius V owners - 42.4 MPG average
11 C-Max hybrid owners - 39.7 MPG average
206 (2012 MY) Jetta SW TDI owners - 36.5 MPG average
C-Max is supposed to get 47mpg combined. Let's see if that improves as they break in, but it seems like Ford is guilty of too much optimish.
I'm kinda bummed, I'd short list that car, yet it's well below expectations.
Prius V and Jetta both exceed their claimed EPA numbers.
#7183 of 9383 Re: C-Max real world - so far [ateixeira]
Nov 16, 2012 (2:24 pm)
I take it from your post the (one of the)reason/s you keep your van is because you own it and the economics, despite the fuel use makes sense to keep it. The obvious size differences do not make sense, aka that is REALLY apples to rutabagas.
SLOW news day ULSD $3.99.
#7184 of 9383 Re: C-Max real world - so far [ruking1]
Nov 16, 2012 (2:30 pm)
I don't regret buying the van for a minute - it seats 8 and can fit the entire state of Delaware in the cargo area.
For my next vehicle I may be ready to downsize, however.
Then again, maybe not, we're still car pooling for hoops practice. I take 4 ten year olds, and they can't sit in the front seat, so a 3rd row is still needed.
I wish Ford offered their slightly bigger van here.
1 carpool van getting 27mpg beats 4 cars getting 80mpg, even 100mpg for that matter.
#7185 of 9383 Re: C-Max real world - so far [ateixeira]
Nov 16, 2012 (4:20 pm)
But one car pool van getting 30% more than 27 mpg is certainly better. In that sense don't move that gasser guzzler an inch till it has 9 folks ! But as I said in past posts, nobody (but you) really cares. Nor ultimately, does it really matter.