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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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#7156 of 9294 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [steve_] by ruking1

Nov 15, 2012 (10:09 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 9:46 am)
We already know how it worlked out in the Chicago area some years ago !

#7157 of 9294 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [ateixeira] by ruking1

Nov 15, 2012 (10:27 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 14, 2012 8:41 am)
..."It boggles the mind to think someone would buy a VW Gasser
  
The 2.slow and 2.5l 5 banger aren't the best gassers around. VW has better turbos, the 1.4TFSI and 2.0TFSI are competitive.
  
So for economy you go diesel, but for performance I can see why people get the 2.0T.
  
Will get more interesting as VW starts to offer more modern gassers, let's see if those catch on.
  
The 2.slow makes for a good boat anchor, but that's about it."...
 
I think one can put this to almost ANY gasser engine line. It is just that each oem does not have diesel options to compare them against.
 
So for example, one has to wonder (we do know, but I think you know what I mean) why Mazda had to (literally and figuratively) reinvent their line of engines and give it that the skyactiv moniker which is nonsensical even in explanations.
 
More to the topic at hand, diesel engine variants such as 4 cylinder 2.0 L, 6 cylinder 3.0L, are really the equivalent of a Toyota/GM V8, relatively bullet proof, bedrock and bread and butter, etc.

#7158 of 9294 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [steve_] by ruking1

Nov 15, 2012 (11:16 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 8:46 am)
..."Diesel has an image problem and it's not just the price differential. Every time a pickup driver "blows his nose", there's another lost TDI sale."...
 
As a NON pick up truck driver, that affects me?? ... how? Even if PU trucks (1,150,1500 designations) came with diesel engines, I most likely would not buy a pick up truck. I certainly have not bought a 2,25,2500 up designation TDI "light truck." I think we both realize what might be logical is not necessarily what is/ remains and comes to pass?

#7159 of 9294 . by fintail

Nov 15, 2012 (11:18 am)

Over 1000 miles now on my A8 diesel rental. Averaging low 30s mpg, not bad for such a big sled with AWD, and lots of 100mph autobahn cruising.

#7160 of 9294 Re: . [fintail] by ruking1

Nov 15, 2012 (11:33 am)

Replying to: fintail (Nov 15, 2012 11:18 am)
Way cool ! Audi (albeit more expensively) does it right ! The 8 cylinder gassers (US) is rated 18/28 mpg so 25% more (your mid 30's) in a diesel is way good.

#7161 of 9294 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [steve_] by gagrice

Nov 15, 2012 (12:04 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 8:35 am)
Carbon monoxide is the odorless killer. Get in a closed garage with a Prius running and you will die much quicker than with a VW TDI.

#7162 of 9294 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [gagrice] by ruking1

Nov 15, 2012 (12:09 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Nov 15, 2012 12:04 pm)
Funny how the envirocons totally ignore that !?

#7163 of 9294 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [steve_] by gagrice

Nov 15, 2012 (12:18 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 9:40 am)
What new regulations. The Mexican trucks have been crossing back and forth here for over 10 years. And yes those diesels blow a lot of black soot into the air. As do many contractor trucks that go down to TJ and fuel up their 100 gallon auxiliary tanks at about half the price of USA diesel. The Feds started allowing Mexican truckers to go beyond the 25 mile limit last year. They still have no good way to test for the 500 PPM sulfur diesel they fill with in Mexico. Many trips can be made without ever buying our over priced diesel fuel. The Feds have made too many deals and lame rules that hurt working Americans. The EPA is a worthless over paid bunch of losers. Time to dismantle that agency. They have done enough damage the last decade to our economy. They have far surpassed the point of diminishing returns. The air would be clean if they enforced the rules currently in place. They want to just keep making more rules that only honest Americans are forced to live with.

#7164 of 9294 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [gagrice] by steve_ HOST

Nov 15, 2012 (12:43 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Nov 15, 2012 12:04 pm)
Who idles their cars? Best way to warm up a car is to get in and drive it (gently, for the first mile).
 
Oh yeah, semi truckers and wannabe big riggers in their dually diesel trucks idle all the time. What is it about a diesel that makes it so difficult to start anyway?

#7165 of 9294 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [steve_] by gagrice

Nov 15, 2012 (1:00 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 12:43 pm)
I think most idle them to keep the truck cab warm when they stop for some shut eye. It sounds like MI is well behind in enforcing the laws on the books concerning diesel emissions. CA is testing all diesels registered in the state. Of course foreign and out of state are free to pollute. Along with the host of Chinese trinket ships coming into Long Beach for distribution across the country. I think Californians should be able to sue the other states for absorbing the other states portion of the pollution from the bunker oil burning behemoths unloading in our harbors. How about an extra $50 for pollution on every iPhone and iPad that comes into our state from China?

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