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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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#7146 of 9316 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [steve_] by ruking1

Nov 15, 2012 (8:48 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 8:37 am)
Those R & D, markets, etc., policy brush strokes etc are for folks and industries way higher than my pay grade. Every reasonable solution is constantly vilified, if that give you any hope. The rest is just entertainment.
 
More to the point is LSD has already gone from 500 ppm to 15 ppm and nominally delievered at the pumps 5 to 10 ppm so the pollution potential dropped literally 97 to 99%.
 
BUT mysteriously you are ok with the gas you use being up to 18 x dirtier because .....? Now that defacto would say you take the Robert Duval quote rather literally, i.e. "I like the smell of napalm in the morning" and in that context the over all INSANITY ?

#7147 of 9316 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [ruking1] by steve_ HOST

Nov 15, 2012 (8:46 am)

Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 15, 2012 8:48 am)
lol, but you're a driver - a true focus group person. You're priceless.
 
Diesel has an image problem and it's not just the price differential. Every time a pickup driver "blows his nose", there's another lost TDI sale.

#7148 of 9316 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [steve_] by ruking1

Nov 15, 2012 (8:54 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 8:46 am)
Now you are starting to acknowledge the "insanity, " whether you know it or not, like it or not, etc., are other discussions. Politely I refer to it as being disingenuous. So for example you on one hand would say the power being out in the New Jersey area is a good to GREAT thing. I would say those victimized now would consider it outrageous.

#7149 of 9316 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [ruking1] by steve_ HOST

Nov 15, 2012 (8:54 am)

Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 15, 2012 8:54 am)
That's quite a leap. And quite incorrect as well. A friend's parents out on Long Island took ten days to get power back on and it was not a good thing.
 
No diesel answers eh?

#7150 of 9316 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [steve_] by ruking1

Nov 15, 2012 (8:57 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 8:54 am)
LOL I barely have choices in passenger car diesels and you want me to get a totally within regulation stinker off the road?

#7151 of 9316 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [ruking1] by steve_ HOST

Nov 15, 2012 (9:01 am)

Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 15, 2012 8:57 am)
Sort of fits with why you have so few choices.

#7152 of 9316 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [steve_] by ruking1

Nov 15, 2012 (9:23 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 9:01 am)
Again it emphasizes the contrivance of it all. For example, I have NO doubts my (to be 20 to 30 year old) gassers will be more than able to PASS its smog tests !!! My 10 year old going on 11 years old TDI easily does it now !!!!!!!
 
If one believes all the blather dash, one could easily come to the conclusion my CA TDI causes all the pollution in the state. !!! (no I am not making a case for a drone strike)
 
Not to put words in Gagrices mouth but we in CA make fuel supply so difficult yet freely allow Mexican trucking into the state !!! ??? (aka LSD and above and NO emissions control)

#7153 of 9316 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [ruking1] by steve_ HOST

Nov 15, 2012 (9:40 am)

Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 15, 2012 9:23 am)
"The agreement that led to Friday’s action calls for Mexican truck emissions to meet U.S. clean air standards and for Mexican trucking companies and drivers to submit to U.S. security checks.
 
It also says Mexican truck drivers must meet U.S. highway safety standards and demonstrate competency in English, to show they can read road signs and communicate with police."
 
Mexican Trucks Finally Allowed to Enter U.S. Under NAFTA (claimsjournal.com)
 
Similar story at Reuters
 
Sounds like a smoke screen to me.
 
Kind of funny how some automakers that are willing to comply with US and Canadian CAFE rules that reduce greenhouse gases thumb their noses at those villains in Mexico.
 
Chrysler, Toyota Now United In Shunning Mexican Fuel Standards (greencarreports.com)

#7154 of 9316 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [steve_] by ruking1

Nov 15, 2012 (9:41 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 15, 2012 9:40 am)
I say send the Teamsters in to clean up the Mexican drug war.

#7155 of 9316 Re: Two grand higher than the TDI [ruking1] by steve_ HOST

Nov 15, 2012 (9:46 am)

Replying to: ruking1 (Nov 15, 2012 9:41 am)
Good idea - let them work side by side with Pinkertons.

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