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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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#6794 of 9298 Re: In line with CA sporting some to thethe highest fuel prices in the nation [ruking1] by steve_ HOST

Oct 06, 2012 (9:05 am)

Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 06, 2012 9:21 am)
Oakland and the other 'burbs will have their BART parking lots jammed, in other words. No exhaust pollution worries since BART trains are electric, so the power is produced elsewhere.

#6795 of 9298 Re: In line with CA sporting some to thethe highest fuel prices in the nation [steve_] by ruking1

Oct 06, 2012 (9:30 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Oct 06, 2012 9:05 am)
LOL oh yes. As you probably know, the PORT of OAKLAND is a key/critical/ active seaport. The majority of ships there to load and unload cargo use 5000 to 25,000 ppm sulfur bunker oil and of course,... ZERO no emissions mitigations!!! UCB plays UCLA Berkeley today also !!!! Stanford is playing at the farm also !!!

#6796 of 9298 Re: In line with CA sporting some to thethe highest fuel prices in the nation [ruking1] by gagrice

Oct 06, 2012 (11:02 am)

Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 06, 2012 9:30 am)
I hear the weather is nice in Tahoe. Better get outta town with all those people trying to chip her off into the Pacific. I thought baseball was all over until I saw the story of Atlanta fans trashing the stadium after St Louis whipped their butts. Right in front of Jimmy Carter. I wonder if he tried to negotiate a peace settlement or just headed back to the peanut farm?
 
Speaking of which. Wasn't the first diesel engine run on peanut oil???

#6797 of 9298 Re: In line with CA sporting some to thethe highest fuel prices in the nation [gagrice] by ruking1

Oct 06, 2012 (1:11 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Oct 06, 2012 11:02 am)
It doesn't look too promising for ski season. We still (Oct) are running the A/C during the day. I am out and about in shorts and a polo shirt. It feels like a warm spring day.
 
Yes, circa 1900
 
..."Biodiesel
At the 1900 Paris Exhibition, the Otto Company, at the request of the French government, demonstrated that peanut oil could be used as a source of fuel for the diesel engine; this was one of the earliest demonstrations of biodiesel technology.[14]"...
 
Peanut Oil Wiki

#6798 of 9298 Re: In line with CA sporting some to the highest fuel prices in the nation, [ruking1] by ruking1

Oct 06, 2012 (4:03 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 06, 2012 9:21 am)
I see from the internet site the corner store has AGAIN raised its prices
 
Currently
 
$4.63 RUG / $ 4.83 PUG ?GeeWhiz ! ULSD stays the same 4.39.
 
MSG # 6771
 
..."Last night (October 4 my sic) filled $4.35 RUG/ $4.59 PUG/ $4.35 ULSD, "...
  
Fuel prices (same corner store as msg # 6745 )
  
$ RUG 4.59 / $ PUG 4.79 / ULSD $4.39

#6799 of 9298 Re: In line with CA sporting some to the highest fuel prices in the nation, [ruking1] by habitat1

Oct 06, 2012 (4:05 pm)

Replying to: ruking1 (Oct 06, 2012 9:21 am)
You got your normal population, normal 24/7 tourists, normal 24/7 business traffic, normal cultural events
 
Normal? Is there such a thing in SF?

#6800 of 9298 Re: In line with CA sporting some to the highest fuel prices in the nation, [habitat1] by ruking1

Oct 06, 2012 (5:00 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Oct 06, 2012 4:05 pm)
Yes, ABBY.
 
I did fail to mention the Castro Street Faire.

#6801 of 9298 volt is mo-better than tesla. so is a VW TDI! by elias

Oct 06, 2012 (7:05 pm)

habster, thanks for the arithmetic stuff. let's continue to defer to your daughter or her classmates to be the arbiters of how to calculate a percentage increase from A to B vs how to calculate the (different percentage) decrease from B to A, and how those two percentages are always different, as long as B != A.
 
the math also tells us that the tesla is useless with regard to one of your key criteria. Seems like you are buying one for something other than functionality reasons, which does sound sort of fun, but also may be likely to induce a huge case of BUYERS REMORSE! Seems to me that your functional-criteria leave only one option for an electric car: the Chevy Volt. So you can buy one now at ~half or ~1/3 the cost of a tesla. Or you can wait and buy similar technology from another manufacturer in a few years after all the other electric car manufacturers adopt the Volt design in order to get "infinite range" USA consumers like us demand!
 
Ampere/Volt is the only real "alternative" car that really gets me excited, aside from diesels. I wish I could get excited about the tesla or any electric car with no ability to charge itself via petroleum fuel. Seeing a couple Fiskers on local roads did get me "interested" at least. Nifty styling on those. I don't think I've seen a single tesla locally here in new england. And zero Cayenne Diesels so far.. :|

#6802 of 9298 I should have bought a diesel by gagrice

Oct 07, 2012 (6:14 am)

If I had bought that ML350 Bluetec the last time I had the urge, I would be sitting good right now with our out of control gas prices. RUG at Costco is $4.63. I can buy diesel all over the county at $4.25 a gallon. News said some Costco stations are out of gas.

#6803 of 9298 Re: I should have bought a diesel [gagrice] by ruking1

Oct 07, 2012 (7:06 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Oct 07, 2012 6:14 am)
I always get a chuckle when the US "AVERAGE" fuel prices are published, i.e., ULSD $4.25 per gal. While I am at it CA should drop the taxation differential (.105 cents)
 
On any given snap shot/ sample (in my case 10/10 times), the majority of the time I can neither find it (the unicorn AVERAGE PRICE) , nor prices that comes UNDER it. Indeed I wish I could pay the AVERAGE price and let the folks who use that as the justification: "....well its aint so BAD", pay the difference.
 
So my corner store price RUG $ 4.63 /PUG $4.83/ ULSD $4.39 (3.3% MORE)
 
The dropping of the (diesel) tax differential would put that $4.29 cents for ULSD. STILL more !? Oh well I did say 10/10 times didn't I, and there are times when I am given to flights of fancy

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