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#6734 of 9338 Re: Diesel sales for September [ateixeira]
Oct 04, 2012 (9:21 am)
If Toyota (800 # gorilla) won't do it, why would (pee wee) Subaru? From the posting about Subaru I made in the past, survival where they are in the "food" chain is a good thing.
Again keep in mind that ANY to all these oems regardless of where they are in the food chain ALREADY have diesel offerings. I am not sure why you dance around the HUGE elephant (anti diesel sentiment as reflected in legislative regulatory and enforcement entities) in the room, so to speak.
#6735 of 9338 Re: Diesel sales for September [ruking1]
Oct 04, 2012 (9:18 am)
Subaru already has a diesel, just gotta get it to meet CARB emissions, which are tougher for diesels than for gassers.
#6736 of 9338 Re: Diesel sales for September [ateixeira]
Oct 04, 2012 (10:14 am)
We might be in alternative realities. So far (2013 MY) MB lists 26,073 units, gasser and 11 units DIESEL. (.00042% TMI, almost all are E350 CDI's)? So if they sold all 11 US diesels in the (US) inventory, # 12 , I'd be SOL.
So my guess here, there are probably some MB diesels in whatever model in bound and will sell for probably premiums over premium. One would have to special order or get one later for a special order that might have fallen through.
It is probably not unlike Porsche, with all the options a Porsche diesel has: I am not sure what has to be put on at the over seas factory and what options can be dealer installed. Be that as it may there are 215 in the inventory.
#6737 of 9338 Re: Diesel sales for September [ruking1]
Oct 04, 2012 (10:54 am)
I wonder if they build them in batches? Maybe a bunch of diesels at once. It would make sense with a just-in-time inventory, I'm sure they get a pallet of engines of the same type, to build a run of diesels together.
Porsche's assembly process is pretty unique, and very customizable, though. Little robotic carts deliver parts for individual cars. I think it was Factory Made or some show like that. Pretty neat.
Oct 04, 2012 (12:00 pm)
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/04/2013-volkswagen-jetta-hybrid-priced-from-24-9- - 95/
Jetta hybrid will cost $2k more than the TDI. That's nuts!
I thought they'd be about the same, if anything the TDI costlier.
They stuck the 1.4TFSI in there, though, that can't be cheap.
A 2013 base 2.slow is $15,545. Of course you get the world's cheapest interior and a twist beam for a rear axle, but ten grand buys a lot of gas.
So now VW is marketnig a 2.slow, 2.5 5 cylinder, 1.4TFSI hybrid, TDI, and 2.0T engine with the same car?
Talk about trying to be all things to all people....
#6740 of 9338 Re: LOL WUT? [ateixeira]
Oct 04, 2012 (4:50 pm)
..."Talk about trying to be all things to all people...."...
I think that it has been that way for a VERY long time.
..."It has three cars in the top 10 list of best-selling cars of all time compiled by the website 24/7 Wall St: the Volkswagen Golf, the Volkswagen Beetle, and the Volkswagen Passat. With these three cars, Volkswagen has the most cars of any automobile manufacturer in the list that are still being manufactured."...
I personally have had two of the three VW cars on the top 10 best selling cars of all time. (Beetle Golf/Rabbit)
Truth is if I were starting fresh, I would seriously consider getting the Passat TDI (the third VW best selling cars of all time.) It has to be impressive that a H EPA rated car 43 mpg can post 84+ mpg.
It has long been known and recently refined so that different platforms have a host of variants. I did a past post about that.
It is really too bad the US markets really restrict diesel offerings, aka oppressive costs to entry. I think a perfect combination would probably be a Lexus TDI. For the most part that has been least a 27 year old pipe dream. Realities are actually much better !! That is why the switch to diesel VW's.
#6741 of 9338 Re: Diesel sales for September [habitat1]
Oct 04, 2012 (6:46 pm)
Hey Habit I would jump on a X5d in a heart beat, however, when D is $.60 more then premium it is hard for people to justify, what is your break even point on your X5? I wish we had a simplified gas system, ditch regular and Mid grade unleaded and just have Premium and Diesel, price them the same (just like they do in europe), then it wouldn't hard for people to choose when one to buy, and with MB bring over the GLK250 which is promising close to 40 on the highway, this could be the engine that changes many people perspective on diesel fuel.
#6742 of 9338 Re: Diesel sales for September [flightnurse]
by steve_ HOST
Oct 04, 2012 (7:25 pm)
simplified gas system
Be careful what you wish for. Looks like four gas choices and two diesel choices at the pic on this Toytown Germany forum. "Benzin" (91 octane) is around too I think.
I don't know what Ultimate Diesel is.
#6743 of 9338 Re: Diesel sales for September [steve_]
Oct 04, 2012 (8:41 pm)
I would imagine it has a higher cetane rating.