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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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Phew! by 1stpik
Aug 12, 2008 (8:55 am)
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Plus, diesel smells bad.
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Re: Money [gagrice] by andre1969
Aug 12, 2008 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 12, 2008 7:33 am)

I could drive a Yaris/Fit the 3 miles to the store and not be unhappy. Driving the 30 miles into San Diego would be a real chore for me.
 
I know the feeling. I call my uncle's '03 Corolla a "Ten Minute Car". As in, that's about the longest I can comfortably stand it for. Now I have driven it to PA twice, about 115 miles away. And I took my Grandmother down to see my Mom for Mother's day back in 2007 in it. That was about 55 miles. So yes, I could tolerate it. But "tolerate" and "be comfortable" are not exactly synonyms!
 
Oddly though, it's not a bad car to ride in, as a front seat passenger. Maybe because as a passenger I'm just sitting there, feet on the floor, whereas with the driver the pedals are taking up a few inches of legroom, plus I have to dodge the steering column with my knee when I take my foot from the gas pedal to the brake pedal.
 
It's also not a bad car for entry and exit. It just sucks if you have long legs and prefer a driving position where you can stretch out.
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Re: Money [gagrice] by bumpy
Aug 12, 2008 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 12, 2008 8:31 am)

The seating height thing I can understand. Some folks just aren't flexible enough to get by without a high chair.
 
As for comfort, the only thing I don't like about most non-sporty subcompacts is that the seats aren't firm enough and generally poorly bolstered (the smart is a welcome exception in both areas). I found that a beaded seat cushion was enough to alleviate the first problem.
 
The crash thing is a personal perception, and I don't think it's worth only breaking my arm versus my arm and my ribcage in a (very unlikely here) side collision, to have to put up with the myriad shortcomings of larger vehicles every day for six or seven years.
 
The diesel subcompact would weigh more than the gas car, though.
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Re: Money [bumpy] by 1stpik
Aug 12, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Aug 12, 2008 8:59 am)

Too bad I didn't know my credit was wack. Now I'm driving off the lot in a diesel subcompact.
 
Big D - I - E - S - E - L. That's the fuel with the nasty smell.
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Re: Money [1stpik] by gagrice
Aug 12, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: 1stpik (Aug 12, 2008 9:15 am)

Diesel does not smell as toxic as gasoline. As a matter of fact diesel is not as toxic as gasoline.
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Re: Money [bumpy] by gagrice
Aug 12, 2008 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Aug 12, 2008 8:59 am)

I sat in the Smart in Victoria BC. They were everywhere up there. All diesel. The dealer did not think they were available with gas. The one owner I talked to was getting 72 MPG with his. Not sure how much town or highway driving he did. I would not mind having one for errands. I just don't think I would feel safe out on the Interstate at 75 MPH with all the huge PU trucks and SUVs. I would not consider the gas version. Until CA bans ethanol in the gas I will not buy another gas vehicle. As soon as I buy my new diesel SUV whichever one that is I will sell this gas hog Sequoia. No more gas for me except in my beater PU and the old Lexus LS400.
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Re: Money [gagrice] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 12, 2008 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 12, 2008 9:32 am)

Americans are not too keen on Smart cars. Too toy-like for our tastes. And no room to haul anything. This seems like a very minor novelty market, and the Smart car has lost money all over the world anyway.
 
 I live in, and have recently visited, some of the "greenest" communities in the United States (San Francisco, Santa Cruz, Boulder Colorado) and Smart cars are few and far between. One sees far more MINIS, and legions of Priuses.
 
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Re: Money [Mr_Shiftright] by gagrice
Aug 12, 2008 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 12, 2008 9:41 am)

If BMW were to offer a diesel Mini I would be tempted. They are a cool little car. The Smart is very different. The Prius is pure GEEK or old woman.
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Re: Money [gagrice] by bumpy
Aug 12, 2008 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 12, 2008 10:13 am)

Europe has had the Mini Cooper D(iesel) since Day 1 almost. No sightings on this continent, of course.
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Re: Money [bumpy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 12, 2008 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Aug 12, 2008 10:31 am)

I'd find a diesel MINI very tempting.

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