What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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#5854 of 9302 Re: 7 series diesel? [ateixeira] by fintail

Jun 07, 2012 (11:40 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 07, 2012 11:37 am)
Not surprised, can't let MB own that part of the market. I'd advise they bring in the higher output model.

#5855 of 9302 Re: 7 series diesel? [fintail] by ateixeira

Jun 07, 2012 (11:43 am)

Replying to: fintail (Jun 07, 2012 11:40 am)
Yep, if only for bragging rights at the country club.

#5856 of 9302 More down to earth... by ateixeira

Jun 07, 2012 (11:57 am)

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/05/2013-mercedes-benz-glk-first-drive-review/
 
$43k ain't cheap, but they managed 44.4mpg in their test.
 
That's over double the highway number for the GLK350 (EPA 16/22).
 
The GLK is a bit small but still. My sister is looking for something like that right now, though her price range is about half as much.

#5857 of 9302 Re: 7 series diesel? [ateixeira] by fintail

Jun 07, 2012 (12:24 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 07, 2012 11:43 am)
The smaller 7er diesel, which I rented in Germany, doesn't feel fast (although 0-60 is something like 7.2, perfectly fine for a boat). You have to push it a little, and diesels don't like that, likely nor would the American luxobarge buyer.
 
S350 is also AWD, I wonder if it will be an xdrive here.
 
Those GLK epa numbers are pitiful, I hope they perform better in the real world.

#5858 of 9302 Re: More down to earth... [ateixeira] by gagrice

Jun 07, 2012 (1:24 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 07, 2012 11:57 am)
I could get to like being cramped into the GLK 250 Bluetec if it can get 44 MPG. That is beyond incredible when you look at the vehicle. Will any SUV/CUV sold in the USA come close to that? The much uglier RX450H is lucky to get 29 MPG combined, with a TMV of $45K. Makes the $43k seem like a bargain.

#5859 of 9302 Re: More down to earth... [gagrice] by ruking1

Jun 07, 2012 (1:29 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Jun 07, 2012 1:24 pm)
Yes, the 43 mpg H EPA for the current 2012 Passat sets a very high bar. Of course in the back of a lot of folks minds is the 84 + mpg (by the Taylors) that can be gotten with a little to a LOT of focus.
 
44+ mpg on a crossover (admittedly smaller) further demonstrates diesels' value, if power (torque) and mpg are important variables. Two important signposts are the 2.1 L CDI engine and 369 # ft of torque. The 2.0 TDI has already been shown to be a workhorse standard and 236 # ft.

#5860 of 9302 Re: More down to earth... [gagrice] by texases

Jun 07, 2012 (1:26 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Jun 07, 2012 1:24 pm)
"The much smaller RX450H "
 
?? The RX is 188" long, the GLK is 178", and most interior dimensions are larger for the RX. The GLK is about the same size as a Forester.

#5861 of 9302 Re: More down to earth... [texases] by gagrice

Jun 07, 2012 (1:25 pm)

Replying to: texases (Jun 07, 2012 1:26 pm)
I know read it backwards and went back and changed my post... hehe

#5862 of 9302 Re: More down to earth... [gagrice] by texases

Jun 07, 2012 (1:26 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Jun 07, 2012 1:25 pm)
Gotta love the 'edit' button...
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