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#1490 of 1503 Re: any takers? [steve_] by british_rover Nov 04, 2009 (9:56 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2009 9:50 am) Yeah but the Liberty is garbage the only good thing about the Libery is a Diesel powered one.   I have driven plenty of gas and one diesel liberty and the diesel makes that car livable but it is still a poor car. Plus that was still an old school loud diesel. Hopefully this one will be more modern and quiet.   The Wrangler on the other hand is a very good vehicle to begin with.
#1491 of 1503 Re: any takers? [steve_] by gagrice Nov 04, 2009 (10:04 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2009 9:20 am) It would depend on which engine they use. If they go with the 4 cylinder from Daimler it should be a good vehicle. It seems the diesel Liberty is less than hoped for in reliability. Though I have not followed that thread for a couple years. I think that is an Italian diesel by VM Motors. Though I think it was a good engine until they brought it to the USA with all the add-ons to satisfy the EPA. Replies to this message: kcram (Nov 04, 2009 7:37 pm)
#1492 of 1503 Re: any takers? [gagrice] by kcram HOST Nov 04, 2009 (7:37 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 04, 2009 10:04 am) It will either be a Fiat or third party diesel... don't expect much from Daimler in the Chrysler product plans.   kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
#1493 of 1503 POTUS prods diesels? by steve_ HOST Nov 11, 2009 (10:30 am)
"BMW says it will offer four-cylinder diesel engines in some of its U.S. cars, definitely in the 3 Series and likely in the 5 Series sedans as well."   BMW's U.S. Engineering Boss Says 4-Cylinder Turbo-Diesel On the Way (Green Car Advisor)   Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 11, 2009 4:44 pm)
#1494 of 1503 Re: POTUS prods diesels? [steve_] by gagrice Nov 11, 2009 (4:44 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Nov 11, 2009 10:30 am) Hopefully they are able to meet the requirements without that nasty Urea system in all the 6 cylinder diesels being sold here. That has been the biggest turn-off for me to buy a diesel SUV. That and none of them really turn me on looks wise. An X3 with a 2.0L diesel would be very tempting. The 2010 Audi A4 Allroad quattro 2.0L TDI is still on top of my list. I would settle for the Q5 with the same engine. Who knows what will hit our shores next. With the devaluation of the dollar we may not see much coming from the EU or Japan. The vehicles built here will have the edge. The X5 35D is built here. Not sure about the diesel engine.
#1495 of 1503 urea -> no diesel sale / ethanol in gas -> yes diesel sale by elias Nov 12, 2009 (3:32 am)
urea keeps this diesel customer out of the showroom, as does the absence of manual transmissions, except for VW and dodge/cummins pickup (?) . if i were to go for an automatic transmission, i'd probably prefer a pre-2007 Benz E diesel to a urea-ful 2007+ diesel and always have my eye out for nice used E diesel. a pal in Cali just snagged one. he is "the man"!   another factor is ethanol. the more the ethanol scam increases and propagates, the more i will prefer diesel... thankfully the ethanol scammers haven't figured a way to sneak ethanol into diesel fuel too. Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 12, 2009 6:18 am)
#1496 of 1503 Re: urea -> no diesel sale / ethanol in gas -> yes diesel sale [elias] by gagrice Nov 12, 2009 (6:18 am)
Replying to: elias (Nov 12, 2009 3:32 am) The early E320 CDI is a good car to watch for. The 2005 & 06 were inline 6 cylinder if memory serves. I keep watching for an 07 or 08 ML or GL320 CDI pre blu-tec. I drove a 2007 GL 320 CDI with 12,000 miles that had all the options I wanted. I did not like the downshifting when you let off the throttle. Later I found out that is a program thing easily changed. Ethanol absolutely wastes fuel. It is just another Federal scam. A good reason to buy a diesel vehicle.
#1497 of 1503 Re: What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car? [simeonw] by ourjeeplife Nov 12, 2009 (7:31 am)
Replying to: simeonw (Oct 26, 2009 10:46 am) I'd buy a diesel in a heart beat.. trouble is.. the diesel gets almost identical mileage as a typical non diesel car or truck.. yet over in Europe.. the diesel rule.. So why can't we get these types of diesel in the US?.. thank you government for that one.. Until Our Government gets out of our business we will never see a "true" diesel here in the states. Makes me want to move elsewhere.. Replies to this message: steve_ (Nov 12, 2009 8:11 am) whitey9 (Nov 12, 2009 9:02 am) jlbl (Nov 12, 2009 10:24 am)
#1498 of 1503 Re: What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car? [ourjeeplife] by steve_ HOST Nov 12, 2009 (8:11 am)
Replying to: ourjeeplife (Nov 12, 2009 7:31 am) You could move to Europe. Most EU countries subsidize diesel through lower taxes.   Diesel is more expensive in Britain because it's taxed at the same rate as gasoline. (Telegraph) Replies to this message: whitey9 (Nov 12, 2009 9:02 am)
#1499 of 1503 No way Jose'. by whitey9 Nov 12, 2009 (8:49 am)
I would NOT be buying a Diesel-engined car/SUV at this time. They are ALL "dirty" excepting the "BlueTec". As I am a "non-lottery winner", I cannot afford a "BlueTec". The price of Diesel fuel in prohibitively high in the DFW-area. The additional cost of the Diesel powertrain/"clean" Diesel system is prohibitively high. My Hybrid Mariner and Prius do just fine, as do my Focus, and Passat. I don't get less that 30 on any of them at highway speeds ( 60mph ). I have driven the newer Diesels, and they are much more responsive than older models. I once had a turbo-Diesel Mercedes-Benz ( circa 70s-80s ). It was not built to be an "economy car", but the fuel mileage was significantly better than any gas-powered vehicle it's size. The trunk was huge! The passenger interior volume very comfortable and practical. NOT flashy 'tho. I'll stick with what I have got. Replies to this message: british_rover (Nov 12, 2009 1:22 pm) bpeebles (Nov 14, 2009 1:11 pm)

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