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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

1503 messages,  Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM

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Hit 60 mph in 7 seconds [nippononly] by bpeebles
Oct 26, 2009 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 25, 2009 8:45 pm)

you said ==> "Nobody needs to hit 60 mph in 7 seconds"
 
I used to think that myself... till I drove in some parts of Pennsylvania. Some of their highways have traffic moving at 65+ MPH and there is NO ONRAMP .... you must start from a stop sign and need to get up to speed ahead of that 18-wheeler which is coming up fast. (I70 near New Stanton)
 
My 1.9L TDI just barely makes it wth FULL THROTTLE accelleration and tactful gearshifts. Dont get me wrong, my TDI likes to accellerate like that and I would not trade it for anything that gets less than 50MPG average.
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Re: What would it take. . . . [jerseyguy1] by rcarr7
Oct 26, 2009 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: jerseyguy1 (Oct 26, 2009 2:50 pm)

If what you say is true, why would you want to switch? According to your 10 k per year x2 post, you should have app 50k each, literal babies !? 50,000 miles, the TDI's might possibly be broken in (full compression) and starting to get even better mpg (1-4 mpg better) Diesel or not, there are no payments like NO payments.
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Re: Hit 60 mph in 7 seconds [bpeebles] by nippononly
Oct 27, 2009 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Oct 26, 2009 2:52 pm)

Well of course, everyone will have one extreme example that sounds super scary, but I stand by the original statement.
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Re: Hit 60 mph in 7 seconds [bpeebles] by colloquor
Oct 27, 2009 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Oct 26, 2009 2:52 pm)

Practically all new vehicles today have acceptably quick acceleration 0 to 60, compared to cars of 40 or so years ago. Even some "so called" sports cars at that time, especially the plebeian British and Italian variants, were in the 9 to 11 second range 0 to 60, much akin to the econoboxes of today.
 
I remember when I owned a 1970 Simca 1204 (aka 1100 in Europe), I did a lot of driving on interstates in PA, NY, and in the Chicago area. All with a 1.2 litre 60HP engine and a 4-speed manual gearbox. It would cruise at 75 all day long without a whimper and deliver 35MPG+.
 
Smart driving techniques kept me alive with that vehicle; the same as literally hundreds of thousands of drivers across the country driving underpowered 36 to 50HP VW bugs on the freeways. It can be done, you just have to know the limits and change your driving style.
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Re: Hit 60 mph in 7 seconds [colloquor] by rcarr7
Oct 27, 2009 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: colloquor (Oct 27, 2009 7:56 am)

I am sure what you say is true. I also actually "survived" (literally no incidents/accidents) app 250,000 miles in a VW Bug. Just TOO many oil changes and TOO many sets of tires. The real reason why I sold it (even with too little miles ) was no A/C ah... in Miami, FL.
 
However I would change NONE of the latest VW's, ( 03/09 TDI's) for circa 1970's VW "BUG's" nor the NHTSA accident fatality back drops of the times. While anybody can google the figures for those time periods. The graphic of BLOOD ALLEY vs the LATEST lowest fatality (accident also ) rates in NHTSA record history sure beats it !! While one would be tempted to pine for the "good ole days", the fact of the matter: ... THESE are the good ole days !
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Re: Hit 60 mph in 7 seconds [rcarr7] by bpeebles
Oct 27, 2009 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: rcarr7 (Oct 27, 2009 8:36 am)

whooa... the "good ol days" allowed 2-cycle engines to be sold in the USA. Almost twice the power for half the weight. Never any oil-changes and and what a sweeettt sound the tripple cylinder engines made.
 
Also, the wankle-cycle engines with the 15,000 RPM redline sounded sweeet and made lots of power/weight. Now, even 2-cycle diesles are hard to find.
 
At least my push lawnmower is 2-cycle and I have a tripple-cylinder motorcycle in the basement 8-)
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Re: Hit 60 mph in 7 seconds [bpeebles] by rcarr7
Oct 27, 2009 (2:30 pm)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Oct 27, 2009 2:26 pm)

Nothing like a stint at responsibility for lawn care for 120 acres to cure ya !! For those used to sq ft of office space (1 acre= 43560 sq ft * 120 acres) that ='s 5.23 M sq feet.
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any takers? by steve_ HOST
Nov 04, 2009 (9:20 am)
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Diesel Jeep Wrangler Coming in 4th Quarter 2010 (Straightline)
 
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Re: any takers? [steve_] by british_rover
Nov 04, 2009 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 04, 2009 9:20 am)

Uhhh yeah just make it faster.
 
Might help convince Rover to bring over Diesel SUVs too.

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