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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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Re: What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car? [nippononly] by gagrice
Oct 26, 2009 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 25, 2009 8:45 pm)

Actually the Land Cruiser with the diesel is rated 0-62 MPH in 11.2 seconds. The LC sold in the UK is not that much lighter than the Sequoia. And the diesel in the LC has about the same torque as my V8 gas engine at a much lower RPM. The Toyota 3.0L diesel is pretty mild compared to the German offerings. I can tell you from my test drive in the Mercedes and BMW diesel offerings, that they will blow the doors off my Sequoia V8. 0-60 is so far down my list of importance, it does not even count. I am more concerned with 30-75 MPH. That is where diesel torque shines over gas HP.
 
I would be willing to downsize to an Audi A4 Allroad Quattro TDI if they were sold here. They get over 40 MPG on the highway. That is as small as I will go for taking vacations. Too much stuff for an A3 or any other econobox sized vehicle. It would be nice to get 50+ MPG without sacrificing handling. The A3 also has a clearance problem for me as does the Jetta and Golf.
 
Sadly the only A4 Allroad TDI we will probably get has the same 3.0L engine that is being sold in the Q7. It will make the speed freaks happy in the US. 0-62 MPH in 6.4 seconds.
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Re: What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car? [gagrice] by bigmclargehuge
Oct 26, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 26, 2009 4:58 am)

Sadly the only A4 Allroad TDI we will probably get has the same 3.0L engine that is being sold in the Q7. It will make the speed freaks happy in the US. 0-62 MPH in 6.4 seconds.
 
That means me!
 
Lol, I'd love that or an A6 Avant TDI.
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Re: What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car? [rcarr7] by mark_c
Oct 26, 2009 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: rcarr7 (Oct 25, 2009 7:59 am)

"While slow to take hold www.edmunds.com does show 39 vehicles with the diesel option."
 
There are several duplicate listings for the same vehicle showing an 09' and a 2010.
 
For 2010 there are only 7 car options;
Audi A3 wagon, BMW 335d sedan, Mercedes R class, VW Jetta sedan & wagon, and Golf two door & four door.
 
And 5 SUVs for 2010;
Audi Q7, BMW X5, Mercedes ML & GL, & VW Touareq.
 
Bring on the Mercedes C250CDI & GLK250CDI, BMW 320d, and Mini diesel please.
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Re: What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car? [mark_c] by rcarr7
Oct 26, 2009 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: mark_c (Oct 26, 2009 9:08 am)

I am not sure the criterion used to come to the figures, or why "dups" were counted. I did read once there (were) are 540 models on the market. So 39 diesel models represents 7 % or so.
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Re: What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car? [Mr_Shiftright] by simeonw
Oct 26, 2009 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 10, 2008 10:11 am)

Right now all it would take is the cash. I intend to buy the new Jetta TDI but will pay cash for it. Had a Rabbit diesel years ago and loved it but I didn't have a garage then and some winter mornings couldn't get it started. So the Jetta TDI will soon be my next diesel.
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What would it take. . . . by jerseyguy1
Oct 26, 2009 (2:50 pm)
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When it comes time for the next car I would certainly consider a diesel if it came from a mfg and in a model I was seriously interested in. Performance and reliability are more important to me than is mileage. My wife and I probably put 20,000 a year on our cars combined, 10,000 each. Current vehicles are an '04 Lincoln LS and an '04 Porsche 911.
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Hit 60 mph in 7 seconds [nippononly] by bpeebles
Oct 26, 2009 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 25, 2009 8:45 pm)

you said ==> "Nobody needs to hit 60 mph in 7 seconds"
 
I used to think that myself... till I drove in some parts of Pennsylvania. Some of their highways have traffic moving at 65+ MPH and there is NO ONRAMP .... you must start from a stop sign and need to get up to speed ahead of that 18-wheeler which is coming up fast. (I70 near New Stanton)
 
My 1.9L TDI just barely makes it wth FULL THROTTLE accelleration and tactful gearshifts. Dont get me wrong, my TDI likes to accellerate like that and I would not trade it for anything that gets less than 50MPG average.
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Re: What would it take. . . . [jerseyguy1] by rcarr7
Oct 26, 2009 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: jerseyguy1 (Oct 26, 2009 2:50 pm)

If what you say is true, why would you want to switch? According to your 10 k per year x2 post, you should have app 50k each, literal babies !? 50,000 miles, the TDI's might possibly be broken in (full compression) and starting to get even better mpg (1-4 mpg better) Diesel or not, there are no payments like NO payments.
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Re: Hit 60 mph in 7 seconds [bpeebles] by nippononly
Oct 27, 2009 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: bpeebles (Oct 26, 2009 2:52 pm)

Well of course, everyone will have one extreme example that sounds super scary, but I stand by the original statement.

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