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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
1503 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM
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Replying to: bhill2 (Oct 14, 2009 11:49 am)
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Replying to: agrawal (Oct 14, 2009 12:37 pm) |
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Replying to: stickguy (Oct 14, 2009 7:32 am) |
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Replying to: agrawal (Oct 14, 2009 8:26 am) Not so hard on older cars but on modern ones there isn't much room back their and two hours to remove then two more hours to replace sounds about right. You can't disassemble a modern fuel tank to wipe it so I bet they are going to pump some diesel into it in order to clean out any left over gas. When land Rover had gas tank recalls four years ago the book time to do the whole job was about four hours. After a tech did a few of them they could finish the job in less then four hours but not much less. Draining a full tank of fuel takes a long time too. You could argue the diagnoses charge is BS as you know what is wrong with the car. Just by reading the rest of your posts I bet you are also getting an additional convenience charge at the dealership. If you are overreacting there like you are here and yelling, typing in all caps is yelling online if you didn't know, then I bet they are are bumping your bill for having to put up with you. They know they have you over a barrel as the truck is already in their shop and you can't drive it to take it some where else. Sure you could hire a tow truck to move it but that is going to cost you a couple hundred bucks. Try acting a bit more reasonable and see where that gets you. One more Edit In reference to the fuel service in the UK you do realize that 199 GBP is over 400 dollars USD right? The UK service probably has some special tools that allow them to do the job faster and with more automation. Obviously if it only takes then 45 minutes then they do have some procedural or technological advantage. Knock out the bogus diagnosis charge and you are under 700 bucks which isn't so far off 400 currency adjusted considering the larger time the MB dealer will take to fix the problem. |
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Replying to: agrawal (Oct 14, 2009 12:37 pm) Blutec is the emissions system required to pass the EPA test for NoX in the USA. Has nothing to do with the diesel engines not running well on RUG. Most of the world has the same Mercedes diesel engine without all the Blutec crap. |
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Replying to: stickguy (Oct 14, 2009 7:32 am) Having owned diesels exclusively for the last 13+ years, I stick with stations that do see a lot of heavy-truck traffic. Not because I'm playing "wannabe big-rig driver", but because the fuel is much fresher at a high-turnover station. The neighborhood station with a diesel pump that only sees an occasional Benz or VW likely has had the fuel in the storage tank way too long and algae is forming. And when something does go wrong, even minor, the truckers are there to help. I was pulling into one of my usual stations to tank up a few years back and I ran bone dry 100 feet from the pump. There were about 3 semis and a dump truck there, and the drivers didn't hesitate to help push my Ram dually up to the pump when it was my turn - kind of a "we've all been there" thing. And since that was my older 96 with the mechanical engine and fuel system, they helped push me off to the side once I was full so I could pump the fuel up to the engine (those Rams had to be manually pumped if you ran dry, and it took a while to get the fuel from the tank to the fuel pump alongside the engine). kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
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Replying to: kcram (Oct 14, 2009 7:14 pm) |
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Fall's setting in- diesel prices are around 10-20% more than RUG now, around 20--40 cents more expensive around CT, Mass and Vermont. It's more expensive than premium in a lot of places. That takes a chunk out of diesel efficiency - suddenly that diesel that gets 42mpg on the highway is now getting an effective 34-38 MPG- you're never going to make up the difference in price of the vehicle with such a slim margin to the gas vehicles. |
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Replying to: sellaturcica (Oct 15, 2009 12:37 am) The only way you'll be happy is having two identical vehicles; one diesel and one gasser, and drive each when the fuel price is (apparently) most advantageous. No, I know that's not sensible, or serious, but sometimes we just need to make a decision. Life seldom hands us clear-cut choices and it's all about compromise. Decide what's important to you and go for it. We're a long time dead and we shouldn't spend our precious years saying; "What if............?" on topics that aren't life-changing. Just some thoughts from an old Brit duffer.
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I would love to buy one, in fact I have had my eye on the Jetta TDI wagons. Trouble is, my local dealer (J.E.) are the initials in Marietta loves to charge over list and won't deal on them. The fact this dealer tried to rip me off on a lease once before makes me loathe to buy into the brand. The amazing thing, their sister shop in Atlanta and even a Mazda under the same JE brand both are many times more professional and willing to deal. |
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