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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

1503 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM

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What is this discussion about? Car Buying, Biodiesel, Diesel, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Hatchback, SUV

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#1304 of 1503 Re: Let the "Feds" decide?? [ruking1] by fintail Jul 01, 2009 (6:22 am)
Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 01, 2009 5:31 am) Those early MLs are regarded as some of the worst MB products - ever. I wouldn't take one for free, too much of a chance for drama. I believe the later ones are a little better, and the diesel ones maybe even better.
#1305 of 1503 Is the wait finally over? by gagrice Jul 15, 2009 (3:05 pm)
Indian diesel pickup to go on sale in U.S. later this year It's practical; the only diesel in its class; will probably be rated at 30 miles per gallon; and perfect for fording the Ganges. The first Indian vehicle in the U.S. is due to show up at 339 dealers around the U.S. this year. Made by Mahindra Group, the pickup is yet to get a name for the U.S. market. Described as being midsize, but really probably more of a compact, the pickup will probably sell in the low-$20,000 range and come in several different versions: The Mahindra will come in a two-door and four-door configuration, not to mention two-wheel- and four-wheel-drive versions. Its 2.2-liter, four-cylinder diesel will be paired with a standard six-speed transmission. The pickup will have electrronic stability control, a 1.3-ton payload capacity, air conditioning (Calcutta sizzles this time of year!) and should be great for towing. To try to allay the fears of doubters, the Mahindra will come with a four-year, 60,000-mile bumper-to-bumper warranty. An SUV could follow in a year. http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2009/07/68494450/1 If none of the companies doing business currently in the USA want my cash. I will send it to India. Replies to this message: coontie66 (Jul 15, 2009 5:04 pm) ruking1 (Jul 15, 2009 5:28 pm) british_rover (Jul 16, 2009 6:15 am) and 5 more... gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 5:31 pm) steve_ (Jul 15, 2009 5:31 pm) gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 5:35 pm) steve_ (Jul 15, 2009 5:39 pm) and 1 more...
#1306 of 1503 Re: Is the wait finally over? [gagrice] by coontie66 Jul 15, 2009 (5:04 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 3:05 pm) Its really hard to figure that no American truck will be sold with a diesel in this country in that size vehicle not to mention Toyota, Honda or Nissan ... GEEEEZE what are they thinking. Replies to this message: ruking1 (Jul 15, 2009 5:28 pm) british_rover (Jul 16, 2009 6:15 am) ruking1 (Jul 16, 2009 6:39 am) and 4 more... gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 5:31 pm)
#1307 of 1503 Re: Is the wait finally over? [coontie66] by ruking1 Jul 15, 2009 (5:28 pm)
Replying to: coontie66 (Jul 15, 2009 5:04 pm) I would agree !! This is a REAL riddle, in light of the new 2016- 35.5 mpg standards, which was overwhelmingly passed by the democrats and I am sure a fair number of republicans. I would think the real unseen answer is in the secret deals made with the big four: UAW, GM, Ford, Chrysler. Unless of course the real goal is just to get a lot of folks to just pay quantitatively more for fuel (per mile driven) This of course does nothing for the "earnest goal" of actually using less... fuel. With the current standards 27 mpg and the so called "better mpg full sized trucks" getting 21 mpg (more like 19), that puts the defacto 2016 standards up 27.69... call it 28 mpg !! No way a currently configured Ford F150 can get 28 mpg without a turbo diesel. I have read in passing that this "truck segment" combined with the 12% suv population is app 40-50% of the passenger vehicle fleet. Replies to this message: british_rover (Jul 16, 2009 6:15 am) ruking1 (Jul 16, 2009 6:39 am) british_rover (Jul 16, 2009 7:38 am) and 3 more...
#1308 of 1503 Re: Is the wait finally over? [coontie66] by gagrice Jul 15, 2009 (5:31 pm)
Replying to: coontie66 (Jul 15, 2009 5:04 pm) Not to mention Ford, Chevy and Dodge. They will spend billions to develop the Volt that will never make them a nickel and leave out a big segment of the market. Small diesel PUs are the standard in every part of the World except the USA.
#1309 of 1503 Re: Is the wait finally over? [gagrice] by steve_ HOST Jul 15, 2009 (5:31 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 3:05 pm) What are they doing about the chicken tax - rolling it into the truck price? Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 5:35 pm) steve_ (Jul 15, 2009 5:39 pm) gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 5:50 pm)
#1310 of 1503 Mahindra diesel PU trucks and SUVs [steve_] by gagrice Jul 15, 2009 (5:35 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Jul 15, 2009 5:31 pm) They have applied for a waiver. It does not compete with any vehicle made in the USA. And it will be able to meet the CAFE which no other PU will be able to do. I think they may get it. Otherwise it is 25% added on top. Or they could do as Toyota did way back. Ship the truck over and add the bed over here. Not sure the whole story on that. Replies to this message: steve_ (Jul 15, 2009 5:39 pm) gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 5:50 pm)
#1311 of 1503 Re: Mahindra diesel PU trucks and SUVs [gagrice] by steve_ HOST Jul 15, 2009 (5:39 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 5:35 pm) Low twenties for the price seems a bit high then, at least for the two door base model. A base Ranger gasser comes in around $16k MSRP. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 5:50 pm)
#1312 of 1503 Re: Mahindra diesel PU trucks and SUVs [steve_] by gagrice Jul 15, 2009 (5:50 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Jul 15, 2009 5:39 pm) Sadly the base Ranger is not even worth $16k. It will probably be priced with the Tacoma. I would expect it to out work the Tacoma. Especially the 4 cylinder model. I signed up for the test drive. Not sure who will sell them here. Plenty of dealerships looking for a decent line of vehicles. Be nice to use my 99 Ranger as a C4C trade.
#1313 of 1503 Re: Let the "Feds" decide?? [gagrice] by jpeters1970 Jul 15, 2009 (8:53 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jun 30, 2009 10:35 am) That's a BEAUTY! I would love to see that sold over here!! This is the first time I've seen that model. I still am saddened that diesels don't seem to get a foothold in market share here. Fuel is still relatively cheap and the American diesels that are in trucks are noisy and rough. They still sound like the Mercedes diesels of the 80's. The VW and BMW diesels are wonderful examples of the type of diesels that need to be rolling down our interstates. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 8:59 pm) nippononly (Jul 16, 2009 6:32 am) gagrice (Jul 16, 2009 7:05 am) and 1 more... mike91326 (Jul 16, 2009 3:19 pm)

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