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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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Re: Let the "Feds" decide?? [fintail] by gagrice
Jun 30, 2009 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 30, 2009 10:20 am)

I ran into a couple from Canada with a B200 CDI similar to this one. They were traveling around the USA getting 50 MPG on diesel. They loved the car. What's not to like? German safety and handling with Prius mileage.
 
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Re: Let the "Feds" decide?? [gagrice] by fintail
Jun 30, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 30, 2009 10:35 am)

That must have been some kind of private import - Canada gets the B-class, but not in diesel form - only in na and turbo gas models, the latter of which must be preferable.
 
The B-class looks like a decent little car, and I see plenty of them in Vancouver - pretty pricey though.
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Re: Let the "Feds" decide?? [fintail] by alltorque
Jun 30, 2009 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 30, 2009 10:51 am)

Yes, The Merc B Class is a nice car - but pricey compared to the opposition, (the 3-pointed star commands a premium). More Merc A Class cars here in UK but same choice of diesels.
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Re: Let the "Feds" decide?? [fintail] by ruking1
Jul 01, 2009 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 30, 2009 10:20 am)

..."The diesels for MB are just a couple useless SUVs for 2010, as far as I know - not a good decision IMO. "...
 
On the face of it, I would disagree. However I took a ride with a very good friend in her MB ML320. (gasser) I just very casually mentioned the latest models were available in diesel link title. I did get an ear full about the quality of MB suv's. It was very apparent it did NOT wear well with her. She has been an MB owner for most of her professional life.
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Re: Let the "Feds" decide?? [ruking1] by fintail
Jul 01, 2009 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 01, 2009 5:31 am)

Those early MLs are regarded as some of the worst MB products - ever. I wouldn't take one for free, too much of a chance for drama.
 
I believe the later ones are a little better, and the diesel ones maybe even better.
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Is the wait finally over? by gagrice
Jul 15, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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Indian diesel pickup to go on sale in U.S. later this year
 
It's practical; the only diesel in its class; will probably be rated at 30 miles per gallon; and perfect for fording the Ganges.
 
The first Indian vehicle in the U.S. is due to show up at 339 dealers around the U.S. this year. Made by Mahindra Group, the pickup is yet to get a name for the U.S. market. Described as being midsize, but really probably more of a compact, the pickup will probably sell in the low-$20,000 range and come in several different versions:
 
The Mahindra will come in a two-door and four-door configuration, not to mention two-wheel- and four-wheel-drive versions. Its 2.2-liter, four-cylinder diesel will be paired with a standard six-speed transmission. The pickup will have electrronic stability control, a 1.3-ton payload capacity, air conditioning (Calcutta sizzles this time of year!) and should be great for towing. To try to allay the fears of doubters, the Mahindra will come with a four-year, 60,000-mile bumper-to-bumper warranty.
 
An SUV could follow in a year.

 
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2009/07/68494450/1
 
If none of the companies doing business currently in the USA want my cash. I will send it to India.
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Re: Is the wait finally over? [gagrice] by coontie66
Jul 15, 2009 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 3:05 pm)

Its really hard to figure that no American truck will be sold with a diesel in this country in that size vehicle not to mention Toyota, Honda or Nissan ... GEEEEZE what are they thinking.
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Re: Is the wait finally over? [coontie66] by ruking1
Jul 15, 2009 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: coontie66 (Jul 15, 2009 5:04 pm)

I would agree !! This is a REAL riddle, in light of the new 2016- 35.5 mpg standards, which was overwhelmingly passed by the democrats and I am sure a fair number of republicans.
 
I would think the real unseen answer is in the secret deals made with the big four: UAW, GM, Ford, Chrysler. Unless of course the real goal is just to get a lot of folks to just pay quantitatively more for fuel (per mile driven) This of course does nothing for the "earnest goal" of actually using less... fuel.
 
 With the current standards 27 mpg and the so called "better mpg full sized trucks" getting 21 mpg (more like 19), that puts the defacto 2016 standards up 27.69... call it 28 mpg !! No way a currently configured Ford F150 can get 28 mpg without a turbo diesel. I have read in passing that this "truck segment" combined with the 12% suv population is app 40-50% of the passenger vehicle fleet.
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Re: Is the wait finally over? [coontie66] by gagrice
Jul 15, 2009 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: coontie66 (Jul 15, 2009 5:04 pm)

Not to mention Ford, Chevy and Dodge. They will spend billions to develop the Volt that will never make them a nickel and leave out a big segment of the market. Small diesel PUs are the standard in every part of the World except the USA.
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Re: Is the wait finally over? [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jul 15, 2009 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 3:05 pm)

What are they doing about the chicken tax - rolling it into the truck price?

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