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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 23, 2009 7:12 pm) (the stuff you see around Edmunds every day... a real learning experience)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 23, 2009 7:12 pm) Speaking of oil changes, I got the second hand account on this one. I’ll not name names to protect me and the company, BUT. A tug was brought to Puget Sound from another port and the local shipyard started doing some maintenance for use here. Long story short; The boat is 3,000HP with two EMD’s. All the maintenance over the past five years had been performed on time including fuel and OIL filters. What engine room logs showed and was later reveled is that the main engine oil had not been changed since 2004. Yes, 5 years without an oil change.  The boat runs great, in fact I spent 7 days on it this month and it never missed a beat.
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Replying to: jkinzel (Jun 23, 2009 8:10 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 23, 2009 8:00 pm) The 2009 TDI is a CRD. |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jun 23, 2009 9:08 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 23, 2009 7:56 am) VW is building a plant here to sell gas-powered Passats, to whit a new Passat NOT shared with the European market, and "dumbed down" for American tastes and to reach a cheaper price point. Has nothing to do with TDI production. 1/3 or 1/2 or 60% of not much is still not much. I guess in order to gauge how well diesels could REALLY sell here, we need one of the Big 6 (of which VW isn't one) to introduce a diesel on one of their volume models. I got a survey after I bought my last Subaru asking me if I would be willing to pay $3000 extra for a diesel in a future Sube. I said yes, I would, but I also said I would be willing to spend $2500 more for a hybrid version, and lastly when asked to comment I said I would not buy another new Subaru unless it got at least 20% better fuel economy than the one I just bought (averaging 30 mpg so far, AWD and all). Diesel will probably be the easiest way for them to go, but either diesel or hybrid will save me my 20% in fuel.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 24, 2009 12:29 am) If VW does not bring the Golf or Tiguan TDI, I may use the clunker plan and get a Touareg TDI for my diesel rig. I am not thrilled with the urea crap, but life is far from perfect. The restrictions on buying an SUV under the plan are pretty lenient. The new SUV or pickup truck: Must cost $45,000 or less (MSR), must obtain 2 mpg better than the old for $3500, and 5 mpg for $4500. |
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Replying to: bpeebles (Jun 23, 2009 6:32 pm) Sadly, though, that engine was installed in cars that have the reliability of the average Daewoo or older Kia. Some folks are okay with that; I'm not one of them. |
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so I thought I would post this tidbit from Automotive News today: Automakers scrap diesel plans Mainstream carmakers have put the brakes on nine diesel-powered vehicles that had been scheduled for 2010. Honda, Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, Nissan and Toyota have halted diesel programs because of spiraling costs and other problems. Financial problems halted the programs at some companies. Others, like Toyota Motor Corp., are looking elsewhere for fuel economy. "We are banking heavily on hybrids," said Toyota spokesman Curt McAllister. .....A diesel engine typically delivers fuel economy 20 to 30 percent better than that of a gasoline engine. But a diesel can add between $3,000 and $8,000 to a vehicle's price. Costly components include the turbocharger, the high-pressure fuel injection system and the complex emissions system, which is filled with precious metals. That cost seems to be a barrier for the mass-market brands. ......The image of the diesel engine may be one reason Toyota has halted its plans. Says McAllister: "One of the obstacles of the diesel is the aged perception that the diesel is smoky and stinky. It's hard to change the mind-set of consumers. Hybrid technology has such a clean halo to it." And just to mollify gagrice a bit (!!): Kevin McMahon, a partner at the Martec Group, a consulting firm, says the way the EPA calculates fuel economy and carbon dioxide standards gives gasoline-electric hybrids an unfair advantage over diesels. http://www.autonews.com/article/20090629/ANA06/306299972/1178 (registration link) One thing is for sure, if only the Europeans are taking on diesels for the foreseeable future, they will remain a tiny percentage of overall automotobile sales in the U.S.
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Replying to: nippononly (Jun 28, 2009 10:31 pm) Until the Feds get serious about using less fossil fuel and GHG, we will continue on this path of high consumption.
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