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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 07, 2009 4:22 pm) Toyota taco Subaru Baja Ford stRanger Dodge Dakota ...etc I have said many times before on this very forum that I would be in line if these were offered in USA. Instead, I ended up with Subaru Baja turbo (smallest pckup truck I could find..and it has the power of a V8) |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 06, 2009 3:20 pm) Fortunately we can compare the US and UK ratings for the 335d and extrapolate what a US-spec 320d would get. all automatics- 335d: 31/ 53.3/ 42.2 UK mpg; 23/ 36/ 27 US mpg 320d: 39.2/ 62.8/ 51.4 UK mpg; [29/ 42.4/ 32.9 US mpg] A bit better than a diesel Jetta, probably thank to taller gearing.
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Replying to: bumpy (May 07, 2009 5:50 pm)
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Replying to: bhill2 (May 08, 2009 11:54 am) Almost every car sold in the US has a diesel counterpart sold in the rest of the world.
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Replying to: jkinzel (May 08, 2009 2:04 pm) Emission standards for passenger cars are summarised in the following table. Diesels have more stringent CO standards but are allowed higher NOx emissions. Gasoline-powered vehicles are exempted from particulate matter (PM) standards through to the Euro 4 stage, but vehicles with direct injection engines will be subject to a limit of 0.005 g/km for Euro 5 and Euro 6. European emission standards for passenger cars (Category M1*), g/km Diesel Euro 4 January 2005 覧 CO 0.5 覧 HC - 覧 NOx 0.25 覧 HC+NOx 0.3 覧 PM 0.025 Euro 5 (future) September 2009 覧 CO 0.5 覧 HC - 覧 NOx 0.18 覧 HC+NOx 0.23 覧 PM 0.005 Euro 6 (future) September 2014 覧 CO 0.5 覧 HC - 覧 NOx 0.08 覧 HC+NOx 0.17 覧 PM 0.005 Gasoline Euro 4 January 2005 覧 CO 1.0 覧 HC 0.1 覧 NOx 0.08 覧 HC+NOx - 覧 PM - Euro 5 (future) September 2009 覧 CO 1.0 覧 HC 0.1 覧 NOx 0.06 覧 HC+NOx - 覧 PM 0.005** Euro 6 (future) September 2014 覧 CO 1.0 覧 HC 0.1 覧 NOx 0.06 覧 HC+NOx - 覧 PM 0.005** * Before Euro 5, passenger vehicles > 2500 kg were type approved as light commercial vehicle N1 - I ** Applies only to vehicles with direct injection engines Regards, Jose |
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Replying to: jkinzel (May 08, 2009 2:04 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 08, 2009 2:38 pm) http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/summarychart.pdf |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 08, 2009 2:49 pm) Burn more is better !!!
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 08, 2009 3:36 pm) insert ^" in correlation" Indeed what is correlated is burn more is better !!!
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 09, 2009 8:36 am) Several states have already kicked up the gasoline/diesel tax claiming that the more efficent vehicles have reduced their cashflow. The tax man will ALWAYS get his cut no matter how little fuel you burn. As for the US federal emmissions laws -vs- diesel.... If you do any research on the subject, you will quickly learn that the EPA does not like diesel for some reason and is trying to keep them off the roads by making the emmissions-standards almost impossible to meet. Case in point... the new VW TDI engine which is 50-state legal is by far the most complicated engine they have ever sold. I am half-afraid all that complexity may make the reliability suffer.
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