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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
1503 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM
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Replying to: plekto (May 06, 2009 10:39 pm) I disagree with this assessment. Due to inconsistent emissions criteria, VW and BMW are jumping through far more hoops to get their diesels 50-state-certified. Urea injection for one thing was a American-market criteria. Ford's R&D and training of thousands of dealership service workers constitutes a massive infrastructure shift. In some cases, using an already introduced engine in a country gets around more bureaucratic tape. Like I said, Ford hadn't produced a single diesel engine in-house for 20 years in the US. Navistar did. Ford has no ability to bring a 50-state small diesel to the US market any time in the foreseeable future. I seriously think anyone in the small pickup market in the US has an easy choice in front of them... license the BMW, VW, and Merc diesels.
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 07, 2009 4:22 pm) Toyota taco Subaru Baja Ford stRanger Dodge Dakota ...etc I have said many times before on this very forum that I would be in line if these were offered in USA. Instead, I ended up with Subaru Baja turbo (smallest pckup truck I could find..and it has the power of a V8) |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 06, 2009 3:20 pm) Fortunately we can compare the US and UK ratings for the 335d and extrapolate what a US-spec 320d would get. all automatics- 335d: 31/ 53.3/ 42.2 UK mpg; 23/ 36/ 27 US mpg 320d: 39.2/ 62.8/ 51.4 UK mpg; [29/ 42.4/ 32.9 US mpg] A bit better than a diesel Jetta, probably thank to taller gearing.
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Replying to: bumpy (May 07, 2009 5:50 pm)
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Replying to: bhill2 (May 08, 2009 11:54 am) Almost every car sold in the US has a diesel counterpart sold in the rest of the world.
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Replying to: jkinzel (May 08, 2009 2:04 pm) Emission standards for passenger cars are summarised in the following table. Diesels have more stringent CO standards but are allowed higher NOx emissions. Gasoline-powered vehicles are exempted from particulate matter (PM) standards through to the Euro 4 stage, but vehicles with direct injection engines will be subject to a limit of 0.005 g/km for Euro 5 and Euro 6. European emission standards for passenger cars (Category M1*), g/km Diesel Euro 4 January 2005 覧 CO 0.5 覧 HC - 覧 NOx 0.25 覧 HC+NOx 0.3 覧 PM 0.025 Euro 5 (future) September 2009 覧 CO 0.5 覧 HC - 覧 NOx 0.18 覧 HC+NOx 0.23 覧 PM 0.005 Euro 6 (future) September 2014 覧 CO 0.5 覧 HC - 覧 NOx 0.08 覧 HC+NOx 0.17 覧 PM 0.005 Gasoline Euro 4 January 2005 覧 CO 1.0 覧 HC 0.1 覧 NOx 0.08 覧 HC+NOx - 覧 PM - Euro 5 (future) September 2009 覧 CO 1.0 覧 HC 0.1 覧 NOx 0.06 覧 HC+NOx - 覧 PM 0.005** Euro 6 (future) September 2014 覧 CO 1.0 覧 HC 0.1 覧 NOx 0.06 覧 HC+NOx - 覧 PM 0.005** * Before Euro 5, passenger vehicles > 2500 kg were type approved as light commercial vehicle N1 - I ** Applies only to vehicles with direct injection engines Regards, Jose |
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Replying to: jkinzel (May 08, 2009 2:04 pm)  
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 08, 2009 2:38 pm) http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/summarychart.pdf |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 08, 2009 2:49 pm) Burn more is better !!!
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 08, 2009 3:36 pm) insert ^" in correlation" Indeed what is correlated is burn more is better !!!
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