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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
1503 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM
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Replying to: gagrice (May 06, 2009 3:20 pm) It is.  After feeling the acceleration out on the highway in a 5200 lb SUV, it is hard to imagine just how fast the much lighter 335D must feel. The 335d is 1400 lbs lighter than the X5. It should have no trouble getting 35+ MPG on the highway. Gagrice It has not… at legal speed.  I know you knew.  Regards, Jose |
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Replying to: plekto (May 06, 2009 10:39 pm) I disagree with this assessment. Due to inconsistent emissions criteria, VW and BMW are jumping through far more hoops to get their diesels 50-state-certified. Urea injection for one thing was a American-market criteria. Ford's R&D and training of thousands of dealership service workers constitutes a massive infrastructure shift. In some cases, using an already introduced engine in a country gets around more bureaucratic tape. Like I said, Ford hadn't produced a single diesel engine in-house for 20 years in the US. Navistar did. Ford has no ability to bring a 50-state small diesel to the US market any time in the foreseeable future. I seriously think anyone in the small pickup market in the US has an easy choice in front of them... license the BMW, VW, and Merc diesels.
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Replying to: bigmclargehuge (May 07, 2009 4:22 pm) Toyota taco Subaru Baja Ford stRanger Dodge Dakota ...etc I have said many times before on this very forum that I would be in line if these were offered in USA. Instead, I ended up with Subaru Baja turbo (smallest pckup truck I could find..and it has the power of a V8) |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 06, 2009 3:20 pm) Fortunately we can compare the US and UK ratings for the 335d and extrapolate what a US-spec 320d would get. all automatics- 335d: 31/ 53.3/ 42.2 UK mpg; 23/ 36/ 27 US mpg 320d: 39.2/ 62.8/ 51.4 UK mpg; [29/ 42.4/ 32.9 US mpg] A bit better than a diesel Jetta, probably thank to taller gearing.
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Replying to: bumpy (May 07, 2009 5:50 pm)
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Replying to: bhill2 (May 08, 2009 11:54 am) Almost every car sold in the US has a diesel counterpart sold in the rest of the world.
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Replying to: jkinzel (May 08, 2009 2:04 pm) Emission standards for passenger cars are summarised in the following table. Diesels have more stringent CO standards but are allowed higher NOx emissions. Gasoline-powered vehicles are exempted from particulate matter (PM) standards through to the Euro 4 stage, but vehicles with direct injection engines will be subject to a limit of 0.005 g/km for Euro 5 and Euro 6. European emission standards for passenger cars (Category M1*), g/km Diesel Euro 4 January 2005 —— CO 0.5 —— HC - —— NOx 0.25 —— HC+NOx 0.3 —— PM 0.025 Euro 5 (future) September 2009 —— CO 0.5 —— HC - —— NOx 0.18 —— HC+NOx 0.23 —— PM 0.005 Euro 6 (future) September 2014 —— CO 0.5 —— HC - —— NOx 0.08 —— HC+NOx 0.17 —— PM 0.005 Gasoline Euro 4 January 2005 —— CO 1.0 —— HC 0.1 —— NOx 0.08 —— HC+NOx - —— PM - Euro 5 (future) September 2009 —— CO 1.0 —— HC 0.1 —— NOx 0.06 —— HC+NOx - —— PM 0.005** Euro 6 (future) September 2014 —— CO 1.0 —— HC 0.1 —— NOx 0.06 —— HC+NOx - —— PM 0.005** * Before Euro 5, passenger vehicles > 2500 kg were type approved as light commercial vehicle N1 - I ** Applies only to vehicles with direct injection engines Regards, Jose |
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Replying to: jkinzel (May 08, 2009 2:04 pm)  
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 08, 2009 2:38 pm) http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/summarychart.pdf |
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Replying to: gagrice (May 08, 2009 2:49 pm) Burn more is better !!!
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