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What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?

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What is this discussion about? Car Buying, Biodiesel, Diesel, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Hatchback, SUV


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Re: First MPG Calculation [jkinzel] by ruking1
Apr 25, 2009 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: jkinzel (Apr 25, 2009 8:44 am)

Oh, so indeed you use the "roll your own option". I can see you take full advantage of the "no fuel draw" on the down hill portions !!
 
Yes I hear you. These diesels just pull and pull. This might be inappropriate, but app 8-9 mph over (limit of say 65 mph) is almost a sleeper in this neck of the woods. I would not do it in front of a highway patrol in obvious "customer service mode", but the truth is most LEO's, unless under the "quota" gun or you appear to be DUI or driving recklessly are pretty cool about it.
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Alright you pond scum..... by ruking1
Apr 27, 2009 (4:53 pm)
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Carbon neutral and we still pass it by !?
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Re: Alright you pond scum..... [ruking1] by gagrice
Apr 27, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Apr 27, 2009 4:53 pm)

Who you callin' pond scum?
 
I just hope someone sells a diesel SUV I like before the runaway surge for diesel cars hits the USA.
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Re: Alright you pond scum..... [gagrice] by jkinzel
Apr 27, 2009 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 27, 2009 5:10 pm)

I have been called "pond scum" before. Not so much for personal reasons as for my union affiliation.
 
Now I can hold my head high.
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Re: Alright you pond scum..... [gagrice] by ruking1
Apr 27, 2009 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Apr 27, 2009 5:10 pm)

Indeed! VW is on track for the 25% of 09 production (250,000 or 62,500 TDI units)
 
Perhaps sooner than later they will specify engines to run BIO diesel; from say, algae. I think you would agree carbon neutral is a heck of an achievement !!! Also no start up will say, but I have posted in the past where 15,000 to 30,000 gals per acre (hydroponically of course) is within reality's realm.
 
Right now diesel cars have to be adapted to run on bio diesel (certain percentages of ) and the manufacturers do not like to warranty products run on (certain percentages of) biodiesel due to a host of issues, problems and reasons.
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unedited conversation by steve_ HOST
May 04, 2009 (8:04 pm)
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I'm not sure I like the sounds of that, lol.
 
Volkswagen Launches Blog To Tell You Why Diesel is Our Savior (Straightline)
 
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meanwhile, back on the ranch by steve_ HOST
May 04, 2009 (8:18 pm)
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"Adding a high-mileage, high-torque diesel to its most popular truck seemed like a sure thing a year ago. Now that gas prices have come down, however, diesel is far less attractive from a cost standpoint."
 
Ford Holding Off on Light-Duty Diesel for F-150
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Re: meanwhile, back on the ranch [steve_] by nippononly
May 04, 2009 (10:13 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 04, 2009 8:18 pm)

Yeah, I saw this but I thought gagrice might be sore if he saw it so I didn't post it.
 
It seems we will never have a diesel available in the singlemost logical place to employ one: an American full-size light duty pick-up.
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Re: meanwhile, back on the ranch [nippononly] by lilengineerboy
May 05, 2009 (3:31 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 04, 2009 10:13 pm)


It seems we will never have a diesel available in the singlemost logical place to employ one: an American full-size light duty pick-up.

 
Fear not...the full size light duty pick up is part of the CAFE standard I believe (will have to double check but I'm pretty sure). What that means is if everything has to get 100 mpg by 2010 (Yes thats an exaggeration, but I can't remember what the timing and amounts are) you are going to either get 4 cylinder engines or diesels. Ford, GM, Fiat and Toyota are going to have to embrace diesel a bit more to get it done.
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Re: meanwhile, back on the ranch [nippononly] by gagrice
May 05, 2009 (5:00 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 04, 2009 10:13 pm)

Yeah, I saw this but I thought gagrice might be sore if he saw it so I didn't post it
 
Not really. Both the Ford and GM diesel PU offerings were going to be Fuel hogs compared to what the rest of the World has in PU trucks. I want a minimum of 30 MPG in a PU truck. This was just another example of why the Domestics may all be gone in 10 years. Those were the same old story, high performance low mileage. A 3.0L diesel is all that is needed for a 1/2 ton PU. A 2.5L 4 cylinder for the Ranger/Tacoma sized. Leave the heavy hauling to the 3/4 ton and bigger PU trucks.

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