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#11155 of 11745 Re: My vacation F/E numbers -(DC to Myrtle beach) [cski]
Sep 20, 2013 (6:55 pm)
..."I would like to share it with you guys, in order to compare it with your Diesel cars of similar size and weight and post your numbers. If one of you has a Passat TDI that would be ideal, but a Jetta works too. "...
Some posts ago I detailed the 09 Jetta TDI's (EPA 29 C / 40 H) road trip.
The 2012/2013 Passat TDI is EPA 31 C / 43. So I have no doubts it will do least 3 mpg BETTER than what I posted. (SWAG only: 42/44 mpg (09 Jetta TDI, road trip miles) + 3= 45/47 mpg 2012/2013 Passat TDI)
So the upshot here TDI's can cover at least 2 bandwidths ( daily commute 15 mph to 36 mph) (interstate road trips kept under 90 mph) with little or no fuss and still post similar mpg numbers !
Really the secret (no real secret) is in the understanding of the TDI one has (gassers also) and given that understanding: execution. So for example, the 09 Jetta TDI seems to be optimized for 2100 to 2300 rpm and the VW Touareg TDI is at 2,100 rpm. Both of course have their mph translation. I would swag the Passat TDI optimized rpm is probably close to the Jetta TDI's.
#11156 of 11745 Re: GM Ready to Jump in if Diesel Half-Tons Take Off [ruking1]
Sep 21, 2013 (10:07 am)
Actually GM has stated that the its midsized pickup will come with diesel ( thus the mention of the two 4 cyl diesels offered elsewhere)
#11157 of 11745 Re: GM Ready to Jump in if Diesel Half-Tons Take Off [scwmcan]
Sep 21, 2013 (8:01 pm)
I do not doubt that, but realistically, I am still waiting for the 2004 Honda Civic, then Accord TDI. Now I know from reading it has long since hit the European and world wide markets.
Off topic, but diesel related. Today, I had a conversation with a guy I had a transaction with some years ago. He had bought a 2012 VW Golf TDI, 2 door, 6 speed M/T for his daily commute (29,040 miles per year). He had been posting 45 mpg to 54 mpg (54 to 56 miles one way). I am led to believe his commute is less grueling, as his routes are AGAINST congested traffic patterns. I know and have done most to all parts of his commute at one time or another so what he posts is not far fetched. He has maked his living as a MB diesel mechanic. So far no unscheduled maintenance and scheduled maintenance consists of oil change intervals and tire rotations. He did not really focus on the mpg, but said he LOVED the TORQUE.
#11159 of 11745 Re: Probably Another No Brainer [ruking1]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Sep 22, 2013 (2:40 pm)
A passenger Caddy could get me into the showroom. Liked the comment about just bringing back the Microbus.
#11160 of 11745 Re: Probably Another No Brainer [ruking1]
Sep 23, 2013 (5:54 am)
I can't understand why they don't offer passenger versions of these vehicles. You can get a 2nd uncomfortable row in the transit connect, but that's it. Would it really be so tough to offer a 3-row option? The minivan choices on the new car market have slimmed down considerably with Chevy and Ford out of the game.
#11161 of 11745 Why do people live under these conditions?
Sep 23, 2013 (6:39 am)
Well I ended up in 20 miles of stop n go traffic on Interstate 5 yesterday. Drove 186 miles to the North side of Los Angeles. 3 hours 40 minutes with no stops. About 30 miles was slow n go. The rest was 75-80 MPH. All freeway driving. Computer says I got 28.4 MPG. If that ends up true when I get back home and fill it. I will be more than happy. The Touareg is very pleasant for driving long distances without a break to stretch the legs.
We plan to see the Reagan Library today with the grandkids. We will drive the Pacific Coast Highway on return trip. Lots of traffic lights but less stress than bumper to bumper 80 MPH driving. If you have to drive under these conditions. It is nice having a nice filtered air cabin that is quiet.
#11162 of 11745 Re: Why do people live under these conditions? [gagrice]
Sep 23, 2013 (7:41 am)
I don't know why I thought of this with your reference to freeway and long distance driving, but I have yet to use and know if the cruise control works. I better get right on it before the warranty is up.
Happy Trails !! I hope the rest of your trip is enjoyable. For those that love the (American) open roads, the Pacific Coast Highway (PCH) has to be on one's "bucket list". When you are doing the "parade" portion" of the PCH, I hope it is one of those GORGEOUS days, so you can peel back your sunroof !
#11163 of 11745 Re: Why do people live under these conditions? [ruking1]
Sep 23, 2013 (7:41 am)
No possible way I could safely use cruise on that drive yesterday. One second you are going 80 with the flow and next all are slowing to 20 or less. Just a crazy way to live IMO. Our last trip up here it was smooth sailing on a Saturday morning. Sunday is a zoo in both directions. The PCH is much more pleasant for sure. Takes a bit longer. But more to see and do.
#11164 of 11745 Re: Probably Another No Brainer [Stever@Edmunds]
Sep 23, 2013 (8:37 am)
Our Zurich office has two of these, a 2 row Bluemotion and a 3 row Caddy Life. The Life is pretty big and feels like a 7/8 scale Multivan. I usually drive the smaller one and it is nice to drive, seats 5 adults though its more comfortable for 4. Its slow, but speeding is a big no-no in CH anyhow, so its not a big deal. Everyone in that office thinks the company Mazda5 is the fun one, anyhow.
The Caddy roof is mighty high for boats, though, Steve...