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#11135 of 11720 Re: The real problem [Stever@Edmunds]
Sep 19, 2013 (6:48 pm)
Now this is almost like "ANCIENT" history, as I wax nostalgic to 2003 when diesel was EXPENSIVE 1.85. Or (you guys are probably getting tired of this) 116% MORE.
#11136 of 11720 Re: The real problem [Stever@Edmunds]
Sep 19, 2013 (7:02 pm)
Gas here has topped $4 for name brand. Still some cheapos at about $3.7X.
Diesel more consistent at $3.95, just after I filled at $4.09. So gas is up a bit diesel down a bit. With the price of oil jumping gas is sure to follow.
Diesel will have to top $7.50 per gallon before the cost per mile compares with the Sequoia vs the Touareg TDI.
#11137 of 11720 Re: The real problem [gagrice]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Sep 19, 2013 (7:09 pm)
Who knows - the other day I heard that crude was down over a buck a barrel. Also heard that a bunch of oil wells had been flooded in Colorado and that was going to put a small dent in domestic production.
Just need a few good rumors (Syria?) to pump up the prices again.
#11138 of 11720 Re: The real problem [Stever@Edmunds]
Sep 19, 2013 (7:52 pm)
Yep, got to get the mileage out of the WMD's ! It is almost a no brainer to say the middle east (among others like Brazil, Venuezula, Africa, etc) benefits from high to higher prices.
It was a not well kept secret, but almost common knowledge the (chem) WMD's Bush could "not" find, found its way into Syria. Yet Bush was vilified. Now Kerry and the Potus swear up and down Syria now has WMD's !!! What a revelation/coincidence?? !!! My how things have "changed"!? Funny no one asks who makes the missiles that delivers the chemical weapons, as if you could use any missile to deliver them.
They ought to be able to drag things on for at least a year and half. that time BO will do the Clinton response and fire a covey of cruise missiles M/T tents in the desert. He will seem "presidential". Nothing really happened when Clinton did it, and now Clinton is revered as the wise elderly statesman. It may have even helped H Clinton for the up coming presidential run.
#11139 of 11720 Re: The real problem [ruking1]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Sep 19, 2013 (8:38 pm)
Assad has admitted to having chemical weapons.
And we're getting a bit far off topic. Please save the political venom for somewhere else so we don't get too far off-track (and thanks everyone for getting off the religious tract from the other day).
This should make your day (and Gagrice's too, lol):
California wins right to clamp down on carbon from gasoline, diesel (grist.org)
#11140 of 11720 Re: The real problem [Stever@Edmunds]
Sep 20, 2013 (3:14 am)
Perhaps it is NOT so funny to ask who makes part and parcel of the (Syrian) WMD delivery and functional systems !! ??? The videos on the cable news, be they right, center, left, showed many of the classic symptoms. Yet, we negotiate with the OEM's ! ?? If I were Syria, I'd be asking the US/UN for a World Bank refund on weapons monies spent. Actually for me a lot of this (ME stuff) is like watching a comedy channel, as it is way past fubar.. One nexus here on this thread) is how it affects the prices of diesel and gasoline. On the article detailing the court settlement, the good news/ (bad actually) is How goes CA, so goes the other 57 states ! ?
Telling is that Chevron is telling us (I have read in another article) , or shall I say telegraphing, swag $7.50 cent per gal or electrical (power) equivalent will cover some of the costs to actually comply, in the not so distant.... future. .
#11141 of 11720 My vacation F/E numbers -(DC to Myrtle beach)
Sep 20, 2013 (4:05 am)
Since I post in mid-size sedans 2.0, I told them I was going on vacation (August 18th-25th) and would report back with my first road trip with my 2012 Optima EX 2.4 (naturally aspirated). Now the car carried 4 people and was stuffed with luggage.
I would like to share it with you guys, in order to compare it with your Diesel cars of similar size and weight and post your numbers. If one of you has a Passat TDI that would be ideal, but a Jetta works too.
EPA window sticker = 24/35
Trip miles = 404
MPG = 31.9 down
MPG = 33.1 back
90% highway, 10% back roads
Ok, on the way down we sat in a traffic jam from the beltway to 295 in Richmond. Awful. So, I was at 22 mpg before I broke out of traffic. We had to stop 4 times, and the car idled for about 10 minutes total
On the way back we stopped only twice with no idling, and had only 15 mins of stop and go.
It took 10 hours to get there, but only 71/2 to get back.
#11142 of 11720 VW sightings this AM
Sep 20, 2013 (4:15 am)
Commuting in this AM I saw
1 Jetta Wagon - TDI
1 Passat - 5cyl gas
7 Jetta Sedans
1 - TDI
1 - GLI
5 - 2.5 5cyl Gas
#11143 of 11720 Re: My vacation F/E numbers -(DC to Myrtle beach) [cski]
Sep 20, 2013 (4:27 am)
A lot of what some of the diesel owners here have taught me is to not just look at the MPG, but also the cost per mile to drive. I've joined fuelly dot com & realize it costs me just over 2 cents per mile more to run my wife's gas guzzling 2011 Honda Pilot than my 2011 BMW 328xi.
#11144 of 11720 Re: My vacation F/E numbers -(DC to Myrtle beach) [nyccarguy]
Sep 20, 2013 (4:44 am)
Yeah...I need to check out fuelly.