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#10155 of 11692 Re: Shocker, Diesel or NOT ! [Stever@Edmunds]
Jul 24, 2013 (3:43 pm)
Interesting, but I think the fuel price relationships are way off there. I've had my diesel car for almost 6 months now, and not once has diesel been near premium - most of the time it has been closer to regular. For a car that requires premium, it seems like an easy choice.
#10156 of 11692 Re: Shocker, Diesel or NOT ! [fintail]
Jul 24, 2013 (4:35 pm)
Indeed it is ! I know of none to few cars that "require" premium to really get "good " mpg. In the case of diesels, " like for like" model cars using premium gets FAR less mpg and percentage. Of course, any car can register the effects of "hyper miling".
Now I am not sure if this is off topic and or TMI or both, but I read a financial article saying (upshot) one of the reasons that RUG to PUG prices are so (record) HIGH is not only because it is a DE FACTO tax on anybody that either wants to or has to use it, but since there are less demands for them, AND the fact there is too much inventory chasing too few buyers: that (domestic) refineries are shipping inventories OVERSEAS rather than take a "hit in prices" (like they have been doing for years with diesel inventories) !!!!! Ergo driving up the prices for RUG/PUG: (no good deeds go unpunished)
#10157 of 11692 Re: Shocker, Diesel or NOT ! [ruking1]
Jul 24, 2013 (4:20 pm)
And for highline cars, premium fuel is needed to take advantage of the high feature engines - and on tuned models, premium is not just recommended, it is required. For highline cars that even recommend premium, the running costs comparisons need to be made with premium vs diesel, not regular vs diesel. Even if an engine can run on regular, the experience will be as intended with premium.
#10158 of 11692 Re: Shocker, Diesel or NOT ! [fintail]
Jul 24, 2013 (4:40 pm)
Yeah, I really scratch my head on this one. Why get a car which premium (PUG) is recommended or required and use RUG??? Incidentally both a higher volume and percentage use PUG (estimated to be 9% of the passenger vehicle fleet) than diesel (5%).
#10159 of 11692 Re: Shocker, Diesel or NOT ! [ruking1]
Jul 24, 2013 (4:46 pm)
I also wonder about the longterm consequences of using RUG in a PUG car, and the mentality of someone who will pay 50K+++ for a car and then cheap out on the gas. Not the used car I would want, anyway.
#10160 of 11692 Re: Shocker, Diesel or NOT ! [fintail]
Jul 24, 2013 (4:50 pm)
Agreed on using RUG where PUG is needed. When my wife loans out her LS400 to family she always puts a big note on the dash. Premium only. I doubt it has had anything else in 24 years. Even with ULSD I would only use a name brand like Shell Chevron or BP. I think all the mileage records have been set using Shell Diesel.
#10161 of 11692 AMAZING US Car ! ? Clark Kent by day....
Jul 25, 2013 (5:12 am)
But, could it use a great diesel (3.0 L TDI?) engine? 14 Impala? GREAT progress, but who really knows? More importantly, who really cares?
#10162 of 11692 Re: AMAZING US Car ! ? Clark Kent by day.... [ruking1]
Jul 25, 2013 (6:10 am)
That would be an interesting move. Does GM have a suitable diesel to drop into the Impala? Would be a way to exploit a niche without a lot of investment .
#10163 of 11692 Re: Shocker, Diesel or NOT ! [gagrice]
Jul 25, 2013 (6:11 am)
I have used Chevron solely since I got the car - the price is good and I am used to Chevron gasoline.