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Automotive News & Views What Would It Take for YOU to buy a diesel car?
1503 messages, Last post on Nov 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 10, 2008 1:21 pm) I could perhaps see myself cruising around in a diesel Sprinter conversion van on a road trip. My neighbor has a diesel pickup and a diesel VW pickup. Both older rigs admittedly, but I can hear him rattling to and from home with my windows closed, and his driveway is over 200 feet away. Half the time I don't hear people cruising up my long gravel driveway. Even leaving aside my old biases, the price differential on fuel costs is probably the biggest deterrent. And those of us who buy fuel efficiency by miles per gallon instead of gallons per mile won't get the price/mileage connection even if the 100 mpg diesels make it to market. We'll just see that big price difference at the pump.
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 10, 2008 1:38 pm) So I think we should come up with scenarios that are actually possible. Of course, everyone's goals are different. Some people don't need or expect 75 mpg. They are shopping based on comparisons to what they drive now. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 10, 2008 10:11 am) Offering one for sale. My dad had an '85 Isuzu diesel pickup that I drove around some back in the '90s. That thing got close to 40 mpg even with a 4-speed manual, and all the whining about having no power, smelly fuel, etc. is a bunch of guff IMO. So, bring in a diesel subcompact hatchback and I'll be first in line.
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Replying to: bumpy (Aug 10, 2008 2:46 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 10, 2008 2:48 pm) |
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Replying to: jipster (Aug 10, 2008 11:25 am) And that is the biggest problem, no one will offer them.  How nice would my new Taurus be with a 2.5L diesel getting 40mpg or more.  If it gets close to 28mpg with the 3.5L gas then 40 or more would not be out of line.
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Diesel would have to be the same price as regular gas or less the way it was for years. Paid today for regular $3.77 South east FL. |
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Replying to: bumpy (Aug 10, 2008 2:46 pm) Oh yeah, the diesels of your Isuzu vintage wouldn't start in the cold either. Diesel has a long litany of issues stuck in the minds of many people that they'll have to overcome to enjoy market penetration like they have in the EU. Good mechanics are hard enough to find for gas rigs too; now I have to hope the dealership pays to keep at least one person trained on the diesel rigs?
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 10, 2008 5:13 pm) Block heater, for the colder climes. I do remember starting it with snow on the ground (about 30F or so), just had to wait a minute or so for the glow plugs to do their thing. Also, I think some of the mileage expectations in this thread are unrealistic. 40 mpg is 42% higher than 28 mpg. Hybrids don't even come close to that kind of increase.
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