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Which Automaker will have the first EV in the USA?

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#51 of 60
Yep... by iluvmysephia1
Jul 26, 2009 (2:35 pm)
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that's what I'm talkin' about, gagrice. We need real finished EV's and then have those applied to our individual states and regulations. Or should I say deduced to our regulations and state requirements. I won't plunk down $20 large ones for a rig that just lurches ahead on the on-ramps and is too heavy from the technology to get up to 70 fast enough, eh?
 
EEStor needs to be watched and so does BYD and their e6 on the way here, the one that supposedly has a 249 mile range on one charge. They were throwing around $28,000 prices on the net about a year ago for the e6, but, BYD themselves have not released any pricing information for a long time. And BYD is stating 0-60 times of 8.0 seconds. Everything is new here, however, as has been pointed out, man made all-electrically-propelled automobiles over a hundred years ago from now. They were just jettisoned for the "superior" ICE propulsion method.
 
EEStor may be on to something large here, though. I'm all mouse.
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Re: Yep... [iluvmysephia1] by gagrice
Jul 26, 2009 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jul 26, 2009 2:35 pm)

The exciting thing about the EESTOR Ultracapacitor is cost. If it is truly only 10% to 20% of Li-ion batteries per KWH, it will be a revolution for the auto industry. The fact that the materials all come from the US instead of less than friendly countries is also a plus. I guess we hide and watch.
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And... by iluvmysephia1
Jul 26, 2009 (7:48 pm)
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another real positive about the EEStor technology is the lesser weight involved to sludge everything up. That is more truly good news about this technology they've developed.
 
 I guess EEStor's CEO is also quite certain about the safety issues being solved-they're sealing in the batteries and are quite confident that there's no explosion possibilities from crashes. I am all mouse.
#54 of 60
And here is a look at the new Nissan... by iluvmysephia1
Aug 02, 2009 (9:38 am)
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world all-electric car, the LEAF.
 

 
Nissan's new LEAF will use their proprietary 24 kwh laminate lithium ion battery pack and an 80 kw electric motor. Top speed will be 90 MPH and the car's driving range will be more than 100 miles.
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Re: And here is a look at the new Nissan... [iluvmysephia1] by nortsr1
Aug 03, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Aug 02, 2009 9:38 am)

I read that article at Autoblog.com and I believe it is coming to the USA sommetime in 2010???
#56 of 60
Yep... by iluvmysephia1
Aug 04, 2009 (1:04 pm)
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it's coming to the U.S. in 2010 and is expected to cost what ICE cars cost that are in this class. But I read an article earlier today that stated that the Nissan LEAF may be offered as a lease-only arrangement at first in the U.S.
 
http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1033845_2011-nissan-leaf-sales-in-u-s-may-be- -limited-to-leasing-only-until-global-launch-in-2012
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Hey there all you there in Arizona... by iluvmysephia1
Aug 06, 2009 (9:25 pm)
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that show an interest in "green" electric cars. Check this out, Arizona will be graced by Nissan's "testing" of our state's interest in how people drive and re-charge their all-electric drivetrained vehicles.
 
http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1020094_nissan-and-ecotality-unite-to-build-- - - - - - ev-charging-corridor-in-arizona
 
Do you realize what this means? It means that people like myself who are interested in the new Nissan LEAF and the Pininfarina-Bollore BlueCar and the Mitsubishi i-MiEV can drive to Tucson(it's 80 miles west of us here in Willcox, AZ)and re-charge at one of these re-charging stations that are going to be built and promoted to the hilt. And then drive back east the 80 miles to Willcox.
 
The Nissan LEAF and the Mitsubishi i-MiEV have around 100 mile ranges. The Pininfarina-Bollore BlueCar's range is around 153 miles. OTOH-the new BYD e6 all-electric car will go 250 miles on one charge, in sheer range on one charge the BYD e6 trumps them all. I could get to Phoenix(200 miles NW of us)and re-charge there in order to get back to Willcox. If I have one of the lesser-ranged cars I would just have to stop off in Tucson(110 miles south of Phoenix)and re-charge up on my way east to Willcox.
 
At any rate, this sound serious, this plan of theirs. They want to build in Arizona and I am going to avail myself of their services in order to go "green" and get off of foreign oil and the smell and feel of oil for once and for all.
 
Whoo-hoo! "We're really doing it Harry!"-
 
Jim Carrey, when Harry Dunne and Lloyd Christmas' plans to head west to Aspen were finally being realized. From the movie 'Dumb and Dumber', of course.
#58 of 60
Re: Hey there all you there in Arizona... [iluvmysephia1] by gagrice
Aug 07, 2009 (4:52 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Aug 06, 2009 9:25 pm)

Who knows, you may have yet another career in the EV business. I would be a bit nervous about heading to Tucson in an EV with just a 100 mile range with the temps over 100 degrees. That AC has to suck up a bunch of the energy. Maybe the top will all be solar panels. You could stop at a rest area have a two martini lunch and be recharged by the sun.
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True, gagrice... by iluvmysephia1
Aug 07, 2009 (9:13 pm)
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I do know that the Pininfarina-Bollore BlueCar has solar panels on the front grille and on the rooftop. A buddy on a Kia website states that Pininfarina-Bollore will bring some BlueCars to Dallas in 2010 sometime, to test out the local yocal market. I may go check them out, though the Mrs. would need another more bonafide reason than that to travel several hundred miles eastward. Oh, we'll just see what I can finaggle here...to get there.
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And now for another look at the BYD e6... by iluvmysephia1
Aug 27, 2009 (5:59 pm)
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that is purportedly the production-version of the car.
 

 
A couple of re-charging updates. Apparently there's a "quick" re-charger that one can purchase with the e6 that re-charges one to 50% battery capacity in only 10 minutes. And a full "quick" re-charge will be available in only one hour. Does anyone believe this will be true in real-life BYD usage?
 
Also, not a serious negative, just a fact. The BYD e6 will weigh 4,400 pounds. And BYD is still claiming a range of 249 miles per charge for this rig. To say I'm not interested in this new all-electric car would be an outright lie, my car-crazy buddies.

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