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2008 Honda Fit vs. 2008 Toyota Prius - Thanks to a proprietary function called Edmunds.com True Cost to Own, we can answer the $8,425 question when it comes time to determine the relative value of the 2008 Honda Fit and 2008 Toyota Prius. (more)
 


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#73 of 92
by brianflys
Oct 20, 2008 (8:41 pm)
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11-14 miles per gallon difference just does not make sense for a car (Prius) that is so much more expensive than a Fit. I would have to drive it on the order of 100K miles to just break even. Did the math before buying, and the Fit wins, no contest. The Prius is nice if you want to make an green "statement". But if you want real savings, you are better off with the Fit.
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Re: [brianflys] by backy
Oct 20, 2008 (8:55 pm)
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Replying to: brianflys (Oct 20, 2008 8:41 pm)

Another way to look at it is, if you are averaging only 42 mpg with a Prius in mostly city driving, you aren't really trying.
 
Now that a Fit with VSA and automatic is $19.4k, the savings of the Fit vs. the Prius are smaller than they used to be. Unless you can live with a base Fit, w/o amenities like cruise or a key safety feature, VSA (ESC).
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Re: [brianflys] by kdhspyder
Oct 20, 2008 (9:08 pm)
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Replying to: brianflys (Oct 20, 2008 8:41 pm)

Again to repeat....this New vs New has never been in question. To take this to an extreme a New bicycle beats both autos.
 
However a 2 to 3 y.o. Prius easily beats the New Fit in room, performance, amenities, fuel consumption AND the Prius costs less over whatever time frame you might want to choose.
 
If one is going to compare two so dissimilar vehicles as a New Prius and a New Fit then it's just as valid to compare two dissimilar vehicles such as a Used Prius and a New Fit. At least they are equal in cost initially.
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Re: [backy] by tiff_c
Oct 22, 2008 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 20, 2008 8:55 pm)

Now that a Fit with VSA and automatic is $19.4k, the savings of the Fit vs. the Prius are smaller than they used to be. Unless you can live with a base Fit, w/o amenities like cruise or a key safety feature, VSA (ESC).
 
Just be sure to add Nav to the cost of the Prius. Because the Fit with VSA also has a Nav system. The Prius goes up a lot in price when it has Nav, *IF* you can find a Prius with Nav and assuming you can buy a Prius at MSRP.
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Re: [tiff_c] by kdhspyder
Oct 22, 2008 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Oct 22, 2008 5:38 am)

Now that the '09 Prius' are in and the economy has slowed there's plenty of supply along with discounts.
 
You have to buy a Navi to get VSA?
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Re: [backy] by thegraduate
Oct 22, 2008 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 20, 2008 8:55 pm)

Buyers of cars may not want to change driving habits in order to achieve the numbers that are hyped about.
 
The average is 32mpg for the Fit in mostly city driving (5mpg higher than EPA estimates, actually), while they only got 42mpg in the Prius (6mpg below the EPA estimates). If the difference was 27mpg vs. 48mpg, as the EPA states it should be, that would be a lot more complelling of a case for the much more expensive Prius.
 
This reminds me of my dad, who drives the same way in every car, and wants a car that will deliver good mileage despite his driving style, which is admittedly pretty racy, seeing 5000rpm on a regular day once or twice is the norm. His Civic delivers 30mpg in his commute, 6 mpg better than he gets when driving mom's 263 horsepower Taurus. He doesn't drive the Civic easier to squeeze extra mileage out of it because it is an economy car. He just drives it how he always drives.
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Re: [kdhspyder] by thegraduate
Oct 22, 2008 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 22, 2008 6:41 am)

You have to buy a Navi to get VSA?
 
In the Honda, yes. Isn't that nuts?
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Re: [tiff_c] by backy
Oct 22, 2008 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Oct 22, 2008 5:38 am)

I don't want/need a navi system, a factory one anyway. I do want/need ESC. Just because Honda doesn't let me buy a Fit with ESC (VSA) without a navi system doesn't mean I give them a break because of it. Advantage: Prius (I can get a Prius with ESC and without navi.)
 
As for buying a Prius at MSRP, I know for a fact I can do that, just as I know I can buy a Fit at MSRP, but good luck getting much if any of a discount on either of them right now.
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Re: [thegraduate] by kdhspyder
Oct 22, 2008 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 22, 2008 6:48 am)

The 42 mpg is one sample in one set of driving tests. In fact it's almost impossible to get 42 mpg over a lifetime of driving in a Prius. 47.7 is the 'lifetime' average of 1700+ drivers in the GH database. It's a much more accurate figure than using one sample of one test. The problem with using that number is there is also one sample in one test where one driver gets 60+mpg in a Prius. As you well know generalizing from the specific to the general is a logical fallacy.
 
Use the GH database and/or the EPA samples which are much more statistically valid. The result will be ~ 48 mpg, which is exactly what I achieve after 93000 mi in just under 3 yrs.
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Not in my area! by tiff_c
Nov 01, 2008 (9:24 am)
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No chance at even getting a Prius. I asked several dealers. Nope, 3-4 month wait if you want one and no discounts.
Ok so I will wait for the 2010 Prius which should be much better and with a lot of competition so the prices and availability should be better. Then the dealers will be begging people to buy them compared to now.

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