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2008 Honda Fit vs. 2008 Toyota Prius - Thanks to a proprietary function called Edmunds.com True Cost to Own, we can answer the $8,425 question when it comes time to determine the relative value of the 2008 Honda Fit and 2008 Toyota Prius. (more)
 


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Re: False Comparison [1stpik] by backy
Aug 05, 2008 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: 1stpik (Aug 05, 2008 10:43 am)

I've sat in a Prius and a Fit. Driven both. Nearly owned a Prius (long story). Fit was on the top of my current shopping list until I found out Honda wimped out on VSA availability on the 2009 model. What was it I was supposed to understand, again?
 
If you can find a small, high-FE, 5-door hatch that costs $35k, go ahead and compare it to the Prius.
 
Why compare the Prius to the Fit? It's all about FE, baby. And comparing two cars of similar utility, e.g. small 5-door hatchbacks. You could certainly compare the Prius to an Aveo. Maybe some folks have. The Aveo is not something I'd want to drive every day, though, so I struck it off my list pretty fast.
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Re: It depends [tiff_c] by fitman548
Aug 05, 2008 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Aug 04, 2008 1:41 pm)

"My concern with the Fit is that they generally are underpowered and do not get the economy they claim....
The Fit is a good city car but we have very little city up here and while a good car it's a bit underpowered for all the highways we have up here. I drove sticks and autos and it just didn't have enough Oomph! for merging with big trucks and SUV's."
 
This is not accurate. Every day I merge onto the freeway where the speed limit is 75, two lanes, with big rigs abundant (the 1-10 between LA and Phoenix). I do just fine, have no problem getting to 70mph by the top of the INCLINED on ramp.
 
If you think the car is underpowered, I think you are an over-aggressive driver, who likes to cut into the right lane, speed up, and then cut back into the left lane to get one car ahead. Those types.
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Re: It depends [fitman548] by tiff_c
Aug 05, 2008 (2:26 pm)
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Replying to: fitman548 (Aug 05, 2008 11:52 am)

This is not accurate. Every day I merge onto the freeway where the speed limit is 75, two lanes, with big rigs abundant (the 1-10 between LA and Phoenix). I do just fine, have no problem getting to 70mph by the top of the INCLINED on ramp.
  
If you think the car is underpowered, I think you are an over-aggressive driver, who likes to cut into the right lane, speed up, and then cut back into the left lane to get one car ahead. Those types.

 
You are wrong! I am not an aggressive driver and I live in a different part of the country than you do. The Fit is underpowered. You make a bold claim about my driving abilities when you base it all on the belief that you are a superior driver because the Fit has enough power to merge where YOU live.
I could make a lot off ASSumptions about you, your life, the kind of wife you have etc...
They would be no more accurate than you are about my driving style which is pretty opposite to what you describe.
The Fit which I drove a long time before they were available in the US, plus I have driven them in the US as well, is underpowered. You don't agree fine, but I did not make any ad hominum attacks against you.
You are probably the type of person doing 55mph in a 65mph and causing all sorts of accidents for driving too slow and causing other drivers to get ticked off and drive over the yellow lane to get around your moving too slow vehicle and causing accidents because you underceed the speed limit.
There, how's the Tit for Tat?
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Did anyone mention by thedoctor29
Aug 05, 2008 (4:13 pm)
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Did anyone mention that the Fit is extremely fun to drive?.. I haven't driven a prius but knowing toyota I can assume it probably rides like a boat. And as for fuel economy, it really depends on how you drive it. My gf who owns the Fit Sport (auto) has never gotten under 29mpg, ever.. It varies though, as i hear some people get 25 city which is understandable. If you're in a hurry to get somewhere then those mpg numbers will fall of course.
 
I'm just saying, with efficiency in mind, if you drive the Fit calm and cool, you're going to average 30 or more city mpg, and have a lot more fun doing it than in the Prius.
 
ps. A Used prius is going for more than new ones.. no joke..
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/31/used-prius-prices-higher-than-new-models/
so estimating that a used prius will save you money, is not necessarily true. crazy huh?
 
A used Fit (S) is going for about 15-16, about 1-2k less than a new one.
 
And again, I must say, the Fit is extremely fun to drive. It's been recorded on the slalom at 69mph!! faster than a corvette z06!!
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Re: Did anyone mention [thedoctor29] by kdhspyder
Aug 05, 2008 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: thedoctor29 (Aug 05, 2008 4:13 pm)

Your link to the current real world market for used Prius' is accurate. However that throws the entire subject article out the window.
 
In Edmunds TCO calcs the largest single expense is Depreciation. In the case of the Prius it's over $12000. So if on the one hand the requirement was that you must consider depreciation ( even if there is little or none ) then the USED Prius is a better buy. The original contention from above.
 If on the other hand one were to say that currently with preowned Prius' bringing higher values than NEW ones then obviously with no depreciation the NEW Prius is a better buy. Buy it new, drive it then sell it for a profit.
 
Either way the comparo with the Fit is dumb. A comparo with a bicycle is just as valid. So why not compare a Prius to a bicycle? But Edmunds has to do something in this slow season - even dumb comparo's, stupidly written.
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Makes sense to me ... by stevedebi
Aug 06, 2008 (4:01 pm)
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I find that comparing the Fit to the Prius in terms of utility, MPG, and cost (including TCO), is very valid.
 
If I were shopping for a small car, I would check out both. But I would also drive the Civic and probably other small cars with good FE.
 
I believe that there are some Prius supporters who simply cannot see that the comparison is based on FE, utility, and cost, not just amenities in the vehicles. They insist on comparable "feature sets" for each vehicle, but the bottom line is - does the buyer care about these features?
 
I understand that people want to point out that the Prius may have more standard features, but that doesn't make the Fit an invalid comparison. The additional features are either an attraction (if the buyer likes them) or a detraction (if the buyer doesn't want the features, and prefers a more basic model).
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Re: Makes sense to me ... [stevedebi] by 1stpik
Aug 06, 2008 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Aug 06, 2008 4:01 pm)

"...does the buyer care about these features?"
 
Yes. That's why Honda makes the Fit, the Civic, the Accord, etc. If features didn't matter, everyone would drive a Chevy Aveo (and save $5,000 off the cost of the Fit).
 
Like I keep saying, if you want a valid comparison, it's easy -- simply compare the Honda Civic with the Civic Hybrid. They're exactly the same, except for the propulsion system.
 
Anyone who avoids THAT obvious comparo, and instead compares a $15,000 car to a $23,000 hybrid, makes it clear that he's cherry-picking the criteria to draw a pre-determined conclusion.
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Re: Makes sense to me ... [1stpik] by backy
Aug 06, 2008 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: 1stpik (Aug 06, 2008 6:00 pm)

OK, let's compare a Civic DX coupe to the Civic Hybrid. Oh wait, that's comparing a $15k car to a $23k hybrid.
 
Although you would not compare a $15k car to a Prius for your own buying decision, realize that there are those of us who would do it, and have done it. Empathy is a useful thing.
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Re: Makes sense to me ... [stevedebi] by kdhspyder
Aug 06, 2008 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Aug 06, 2008 4:01 pm)

Since they are relatively the same in size it does make sense to compare the two for simply utility. Based just on that they are approximately equal.
 
Based on that then the Fit is a much better choice taking into account MSRPs. This has NEVER been questioned. If one doesn't need the 'feature set' of the Prius then the Fit is always the winner. Again it's never been a question. It's the same decision to be made between an Edge and an Rx350. They're both the same size and accomplish the same goal so based solely on utility the Edge is a 'better buy'....unless you don't want an Edge and prefer an Rx350.
 
It's the same with the subject comparo. Buy the cheaper one, it will go from A to B just as well as the more expensive one.....unless you don't want a Fit and prefer a Prius.
 
But...if this is going to be a purely economical analysis with 'feature sets' having no influence on the decision then the $15000 Fit should logically be compared to a $15000 Prius. Then the analysis should be made.
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Re: Makes sense to me ... [kdhspyder] by backy
Aug 06, 2008 (7:41 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Aug 06, 2008 7:35 pm)

If you read the comparo (you did, right?) you noticed that the cars were compared on many criteria, not just on fuel economy. And it was a very narrow margin at the end--the authors admitted that normally such a close finish would be a toss-up. But the TCO advantage of the Fit swayed the decision in its favor.

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